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<JacekK> scribe: holger
laura: some talk about the case study should be added to the agenda
minutes are approved
<scribe> ACTION: Terry to review last call of WSDL RDF mapping http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl20-rdf/ by beginning of July [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060711#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: EricP to review last call of WSDL RDF mapping http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl20-rdf/ by beginning of July [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060711#action02]
review by eric has been send to mailing list, terries review outstanding
<scribe> ACTION: Amit and Rama (and anybody interested) to suggest definition of semantics [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060711#action03]
action on suggestion for wording on semantics by rama send
<scribe> ACTION: Rama to try and come up with a better annotation for the subsection "Annotating operations with model references" [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060711#action04]
<scribe> ACTION: John, Kunal, Claudio to revise section on mapping to WSDL 1.1 [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060711#action05]
action John, Kunal, Claudio to revise section on mapping to WSDL 1.1 has been done (send to mailing list)
will be discussed in next telco
<JacekK> f2f logistics: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/admin/meetings/200608Torino
<JacekK> f2f registration: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39001/200608torino/
NOTE: also register your regrets when you do not plan to attend
telcons August 1, August 8 cancelled
Other chair for July 18, July 25 looks like will be Eric and Holger
Rama: edit access (jigedit) to document has been established, will start to work on it this week
Laura: telecomunication services case study has been send to Rama
... discussion with Rama about open issues outstanding
JacekK: suggest a private discussion between editors unless you think involving complete working group would be beneficial
Rama: to bring process up to speed suggest phone call / email by end of the week for editors
Claudio: we have some concern about understandability of use cases, e.g. concern with lifting and loweringSchemaMapping importance.
... this can be very important to address dynamic binding requirements.
Rama: agree, section in spec should include purpose and usage example (to be extended)
... shouldn't this be in the example document?
Laura: in the use case doc
Rama: spec should be self explaining
Holger: a bit more conservative about including all contextual information, spec should be concise
John: agree with Rama more motivation is needed
JacekK: like the idea of including motivatory text, but keep examples in use case doc
Rama: yes, one example + motivation
<JacekK> ISSUE: schemaMapping section should have motivatory text
JacekK: Review from EricP http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-semann/2006Jul/0009
... feedback should be sent to wsdl working group
<JacekK> ACTION: EricP to submit our review to WSDL RDF mapping to the WSDL WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060711#action06]
JacekK: is there a volunteer to address SAWSDL RDF mapping, since it is in the charter?
... this means adding a section to the current spec
Rama: why do we need extra section to map to RDF? why exclude other like UML?
JackekK: since there exists a wsdl2rdf mapping and it is included in our charter
... section should clarify how sawsdl extensions map to rdf representation of wsdl
... I am volunteering, who else?
Eric: what about xmlschema2rdf mapping?
JacekK: if that exists schemaMapping and modelReference should be added
Joel: is that a normative part?
eric: second volunteer
JacekK: more volunteers?
<JacekK> ACTION: EricP and JacekK to draft an RDF mapping section for SAWSDL [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060711#action07]
eric: does address only lifting and loweing schema mapping, but can be extended with model reference
Rama: is the intend to include this into use case?
eric: have not thought about this
Rama: what is the relevance for SAWSDL spec?
eric: usually I do annotation directly in WSDL, but in examples I used SAWSDL to externalize
JacekK: example verifies that SAWSDL works
... no need at moment to think about where to publish at moment
... or do we have interest in adding prose text and including it in use case example
eric: yes, I would.
carlos: informative note about where/how transformations have been applied
<JacekK> ACTION: EricP to add text gravy to his annotated Amazon WSDL and put it in Examples document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060711#action08]
JacekK: please add modelreference
JacekK: to be discussed next week due to late email
JacekK: concern of Laurent, should be discussed when he is there
... will update status to deferred