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jonc: has to drop off early, sorry!
pauld: plan to make this a short call
minutes from the 7th November approved
pauld: mono and others barf
any objections to moving gDay and gMonth to advanced?
RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-93 as being advanced
pauld: did a bunch of editing, including an attempt to define the term "state of art"
pauld: our biggest risk is we've missed somthing obviously "Basic"
pauld: had mail from Yves, W3C would like to move to LC
jonc: BT happy to move forward
gcowe: Origo is OK to move forward
gcowe: we're more interested in patterns detection
vladislav: would ideally like more time to review, but OK to move forward, but may contribute Basic patterns during Last Call
pauld: discussion of what Last Call means.
pauld: be aware that if the WG adds a pattern to Basic Last Call, that could be seen as a "substantive change" and may take us back to a Working Draft.
pauld: it's no disgrace for us to have two Last Calls given our level of participation
pauld: OK, so we're agreed. Let's go to Last Call!
pauld: will complete editorial AIs today and notify the WG on the member list
pauld: plan to start lining up our advanced issues, and am collectiong patterns as being "pending", expect more issues soon.
pauld: what wouldn't we include? redefine seeems to be an obvious no-no for databinding, but why? We need to know when to stop.
vladislav: would argue against redefine!
... probably not mentioning redefine is best
pauld: we only have positive patterns, so that's how we're thinking
gcowe: we're happy with the Basic and our patterns in Advanced, not looking for much more
pauld: that's the risk, we're a small WG and we only look at schemas of interest to us
gcowe: will submit some missing patterns
pauld: been collecting public schemas from the wild and have 40 something to cvs commit along with a cool ant taks to fetch, cache and detect patterns
gcowe: how many patterns remain to be documented?
pauld: hard to say, depends on the granularity of the tool
discussion of possbile inferance tool - intersect patterns in a schema with patterns known to work with a given tool
vladislav: submitted several issues, including versioning ?
pauld: BT is very interested in versioning. We'll get to this soon, but I'm worried about open ended discussion, making concrete proposals for patterns is going to be our best way forward.
vladislav: came from
precisionDecimal pattern, possibly a simpler approach to
constrain the size of decimal
... not sure it's Basic, and we may have an alternative approach
gcowe: lets see how the testsuite handles it
RESOLUTION: accept ISSUE-95 as a Basic pattern
gcowe: thinks sequence/@maxOccurs is a Basic pattern
pauld: OK, so we're almost in Last Call. Let's raise it as an issue, accept it in advance as being Basic?
RESOLUTION: accept ISSUE-96 as a Basic pattern