W3C

W3C XML Schema Patterns for Databinding Working Group Teleconference

6 Dec 2005

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present

Gerald Beuchelt (Sun)
Paul Biron (HL7)
Jon Calladine (BT)
Paul Downey (BT)
Yves Lafon (W3C)
Paul Fremantle (WSO2)
Ajith Ranabahu (WSO2)
Sekhar Vajjhala (Sun)
Vladislav Bezrukov (SAP) (Observer)
Regrets
Chair
Paul Downey
Scribe
Yves Lafon

Contents


 

 

<pauld> Scribe: Yves

Introductions

Paul Downey, involved in WS at BT

Yves Lafon, working on protocols, starting with HTTP and now goig up the stack :)

Paul Fremantle (GMT)

Jon Calladine (GMT)

Sekhar Vajjhala (EST)

Ajith Ranabahu (Sri Lanka)

Gathering time zones...

Gerald (EST)

Ajith, Sri Lanka, (GMT+6)

Vladislav Bezrukov (Europe)

not here but presented by PaulD: Paul Biron (Pacific)

Important documents

Charter, at http://www.w3.org/2005/10/ws-databinding-charter.html

Process, http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Process/

PaulD: the first WD starts the clock for patent disclosure, so publishing fast is one of the goal, also to signal our work to the outside

W3C Patent Policy: http://www.w3.org/2004/02/05-patentsummary

Communication in the group

The member list: member-xsd-databinding@w3.org

WG members are automatically subscribed/unsubscribed

only in use for administrative matters

archive at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xsd-databinding/

Public list, where the core work will be

public-xsd-databinding@w3.org

* IRC

very important during the meeting as it helps track lots of things, scribing, etc...

You can access it with a web interface

Teleconferences

initially, the plan is to have 1 hour long teleconference

considering the timezones, it may be challenging.

People on the call seems happy with the current time

doing the call earlier will almost rule out possible US west coast members

Tuesday seems also good for people

PaulD: Proposal on the table, 1 hour earlier same day.

<paulf> fine for me

<Ajith> fine with me also

unanimous consent

<pauld> ACTION: yves to set up the weekly telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-databinding-minutes.html#action01]

ACTION 1=Yves to set up weekly telcon on tuesdays 15h GMT one hour

f2f

noone booked plane ticket yet

Plan to rearrange f2f dates to later in january

if we move the date, the WG will have to start on the mailing list

<pauld> ACTION: to rearrange the F2F dates [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-databinding-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: PaulD to rearrange the F2F dates [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-databinding-minutes.html#action03]

ACTION -2

Good standing rules

Good standing is important as you have to be in good standing for formal votes

most of the time we will use straw polls, formal votes are more for contentious/important issues

won't impose good standing for first few weeks, may reconsider after the first F2F

Issues:

Basis of Work, see http://www.w3.org/2005/07/xml-schema-patterns.html

there may be other submissions

the WG has to produce some deliverables

the first one is the "Basic Patterns", then another one with more sophisticated uses, versionning, etc...

also a test suite to help the documents move beyond Candidate Recommendation

and a method for identifying patterns

Is anyone interested in being an editor?

might be a little early for that

PaulD: I will probably be an editor myself

Ajith: I may help as well

PaulD: W3C uses CVS for versionning and use XML based format for specs (xmlspec)

Yves: also JigEdit (which can be used via WebDAV) can be used to share documents and do versionning

PaulD: as we are starting quite late, I encourage people to submit patterns to the mailing list
... any question?

Ajith: what is the status of the starting point?

PaulD: The document used at the starting point is problematic, it is mainly arrays and

structs, and also doesn't work well with current toolkit.

Ajith: also are we targeting programming languages?

PaulD: the Charter is not directed at programming languages to allow larger things but examples can be taken from programming languages
... Do people have some patterns ready?

PaulB: I have some

<JonC> BT too

<paulf> +1 to finish early

ADJOURNED

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: PaulD to rearrange the F2F dates [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-databinding-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: to rearrange the F2F dates [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-databinding-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: yves to set up the weekly telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
 
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