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<pauld> Scribe: Yves
Paul Downey, involved in WS at BT
Yves Lafon, working on protocols, starting with HTTP and now goig up the stack :)
Paul Fremantle (GMT)
Jon Calladine (GMT)
Sekhar Vajjhala (EST)
Ajith Ranabahu (Sri Lanka)
Gathering time zones...
Ajith, Sri Lanka, (GMT+6)
Vladislav Bezrukov (Europe)
not here but presented by PaulD: Paul Biron (Pacific)
PaulD: the first WD starts the clock for patent disclosure, so publishing fast is one of the goal, also to signal our work to the outside
W3C Patent Policy: http://www.w3.org/2004/02/05-patentsummary
The member list: firstname.lastname@example.org
WG members are automatically subscribed/unsubscribed
only in use for administrative matters
Public list, where the core work will be
very important during the meeting as it helps track lots of things, scribing, etc...
You can access it with a web interface
initially, the plan is to have 1 hour long teleconference
considering the timezones, it may be challenging.
People on the call seems happy with the current time
doing the call earlier will almost rule out possible US west coast members
Tuesday seems also good for people
PaulD: Proposal on the table, 1 hour earlier same day.
<paulf> fine for me
<Ajith> fine with me also
<pauld> ACTION: yves to set up the weekly telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
ACTION 1=Yves to set up weekly telcon on tuesdays 15h GMT one hour
noone booked plane ticket yet
Plan to rearrange f2f dates to later in january
if we move the date, the WG will have to start on the mailing list
<pauld> ACTION: to rearrange the F2F dates [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-databinding-minutes.html#action02]
<scribe> ACTION: PaulD to rearrange the F2F dates [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-databinding-minutes.html#action03]
Good standing rules
Good standing is important as you have to be in good standing for formal votes
most of the time we will use straw polls, formal votes are more for contentious/important issues
won't impose good standing for first few weeks, may reconsider after the first F2F
Basis of Work, see http://www.w3.org/2005/07/xml-schema-patterns.html
there may be other submissions
the WG has to produce some deliverables
the first one is the "Basic Patterns", then another one with more sophisticated uses, versionning, etc...
also a test suite to help the documents move beyond Candidate Recommendation
and a method for identifying patterns
Is anyone interested in being an editor?
might be a little early for that
PaulD: I will probably be an editor myself
Ajith: I may help as well
PaulD: W3C uses CVS for versionning and use XML based format for specs (xmlspec)
Yves: also JigEdit (which can be used via WebDAV) can be used to share documents and do versionning
PaulD: as we are starting quite
late, I encourage people to submit patterns to the mailing
... any question?
Ajith: what is the status of the starting point?
PaulD: The document used at the starting point is problematic, it is mainly arrays and
structs, and also doesn't work well with current toolkit.
Ajith: also are we targeting programming languages?
PaulD: the Charter is not
directed at programming languages to allow larger things but
examples can be taken from programming languages
... Do people have some patterns ready?
PaulB: I have some
<JonC> BT too
<paulf> +1 to finish early
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