- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 17:06:00 +0100
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https://www.w3.org/2020/08/13-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
13 Aug 2020
[2]Agenda
[2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Aug/0019.html
Attendees
Present
JcK, addison, fsasaki, Bert, Felix, Atsushi, Richard,
Fuqiao
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Agenda and Minutes
2. [5]Action Items
3. [6]Info Share
4. [7]RADAR Review
5. [8]Specdev changes
6. [9]Publish new LTLI WD?
7. [10]AOB?
* [11]Summary of Action Items
* [12]Summary of Resolutions
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trackbot, prepare teleconference
<agendabot> clear agenda
Agenda and Minutes
fuqiao: talk about webxr
Action Items
[13]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[13] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-927?
<trackbot> action-927 -- Addison Phillips to Work with richard
on crossover tpac meeting planning and proposal for our tpac
calls -- due 2020-07-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[14]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/927
[14] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/927
close action-927
<trackbot> Closed action-927.
[15]https://www.w3.org/wiki/I18N_2020_TPAC
[15] https://www.w3.org/wiki/I18N_2020_TPAC
action-929?
<trackbot> action-929 -- Felix Sasaki to Send uri/iri/url issue
to wg -- due 2020-07-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[16]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/929
[16] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/929
close action-929
<trackbot> Closed action-929.
action-931?
<trackbot> action-931 -- Felix Sasaki to Reply to rdf via our
i18n-dicuss issue 13 -- due 2020-07-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[17]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/931
[17] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/931
close action-931
<trackbot> Closed action-931.
action-933?
<trackbot> action-933 -- Addison Phillips to Send mail to
chairs@ asking for signups for tpac meetings -- due 2020-07-23
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[18]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/933
[18] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/933
close action-933
<trackbot> Closed action-933.
action-935?
<trackbot> action-935 -- Addison Phillips to Read html input
type=email text and suggest edits -- due 2020-07-23 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[19]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/935
[19] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/935
[20]https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/5799/files
[20] https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/5799/files
close action-935
<trackbot> Closed action-935.
action-937?
<trackbot> action-937 -- Addison Phillips to Follow up on media
queries about status of hr -- due 2020-08-06 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[21]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/937
[21] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/937
close action-937
<trackbot> Closed action-937.
action-938?
<trackbot> action-938 -- Addison Phillips to Notify mediastream
track that we completed a review with no issues -- due
2020-08-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[22]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/938
[22] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/938
close action-938
<trackbot> Closed action-938.
action-939?
<trackbot> action-939 -- Richard Ishida to See if we have a
definition of ltr/rtl/auto somewhere centralized that specs can
refer to -- due 2020-08-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[23]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/939
[23] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/939
action-940?
<trackbot> action-940 -- Addison Phillips to Write proposal for
error message handling for specdev -- due 2020-08-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[24]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/940
[24] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/940
close action-940
<trackbot> Closed action-940.
Info Share
Atsushi: we published JLReq update as WG Note
... requires manual uploading
... was published on tuesday
<xfq_> [25]https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/
[25] https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/
<r12a> [26]https://www.w3.org/International/
[26] https://www.w3.org/International/
richard: did a rejig of homepage
<r12a>
[27]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/getting-started/languaged
ev.en
[27] https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/getting-started/languagedev.en
richard: did three pages, rewrote basically
<r12a>
[28]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/getting-started/specdev.e
n
[28] https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/getting-started/specdev.en
<r12a>
[29]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/getting-started/contentde
v.en
[29] https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/getting-started/contentdev.en
<r12a> [30]https://www.w3.org/International/resources
[30] https://www.w3.org/International/resources
richard: still need e.g. the sitemap
... change styling and such
RADAR Review
[31]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
[31] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
<atsushi>
[32]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/128#issuecomment
-671795004
[32] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/128#issuecomment-671795004
atsushi: found no issue in screen wake lock
<scribe> ACTION: addison: notify screen wake lock of review
complete with no issues
<trackbot> Created ACTION-941 - Notify screen wake lock of
review complete with no issues [on Addison Phillips - due
2020-08-20].
<fsasaki> [33]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/950
[33] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/950
felix: document gives guidance for various personas
... such as cognitive impairment due to age or autism or such
... my comment is that a lot of the guidance in the doc is also
helpful for people who have no cognitive disabilities
... such as a foreigner in a country where you have poor
language skills
... for these people, using short sentences, simple structure,
etc.
... to reach a wider audience, maybe add this persona
richard: these are all American sounding names
felix: this is only a first issue
richard: disabilities -> challenges?
Specdev changes
[34]https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/pull/41
[34] https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/pull/41
[35]https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/41/
cdbf6d5...aphillips:f70b324.html
[35] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/41/cdbf6d5...aphillips:f70b324.html
[36]https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/41/
cdbf6d5...aphillips:f70b324.html#localization
[36] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/41/cdbf6d5...aphillips:f70b324.html#localization
[37]https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/41/
cdbf6d5...aphillips:f70b324.html#text_n11n
[37] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/41/cdbf6d5...aphillips:f70b324.html#text_n11n
richard: exclude text that isn't part of the mustard from the
mustard
[38]https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/aphillips/bp-i18n-specd
ev/pull/41.html
[38] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/aphillips/bp-i18n-specdev/pull/41.html
Bert: suitable fallback or default: can we define?
felix: once LTLI has progressed further, some guidance needs to
change here
<xfq> [39]https://github.com/w3c/ltli/issues/16
[39] https://github.com/w3c/ltli/issues/16
[40]https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/aphillips/bp-i18n-specd
ev/pull/41.html#text_n11n
[40] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/aphillips/bp-i18n-specdev/pull/41.html#text_n11n
<r12a>
[41]https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/aphillips/bp-i18n-specd
ev/pull/41.html#spec_n11n
[41] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/aphillips/bp-i18n-specdev/pull/41.html#spec_n11n
<r12a> margin: 4em;
<r12a> font-size: 80%;
<scribe> ACTION: addison: apply edits discussed in telecon and
merge the normalization and localization specdev changes
<trackbot> Created ACTION-942 - Apply edits discussed in
telecon and merge the normalization and localization specdev
changes [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-08-20].
Publish new LTLI WD?
[42]https://w3c.github.io/ltli/
[42] https://w3c.github.io/ltli/
[43]https://www.w3.org/TR/ltli/
[43] https://www.w3.org/TR/ltli/
<xfq> [44]https://www.w3.org/TR/ltli/
[44] https://www.w3.org/TR/ltli/
felix: one aspect I'm not sure about
... if you ask someone to implement a validator
... straightforward
... with new concepts related to locale and guidance for people
producing/consuming content
... I am less aware of how Unicode/CLDR and the Unicode TR
works technically
... if I want to update my validator, maybe this is something
that doesn't need to be in this document, but what
... steps are needed so you can work with a locale identifier
... may take time to produce
... missing piece of information
<scribe> ACTION: addison: publish ltli to TR
<trackbot> Created ACTION-943 - Publish ltli to tr [on Addison
Phillips - due 2020-08-20].
<scribe> ACTION: richard: set up LTLI for echidna
<trackbot> Created ACTION-944 - Set up ltli for echidna [on
Richard Ishida - due 2020-08-20].
we'll do a WG review for a couple of weeks and then decide on
wide review
AOB?
fuqiao: quick question about ready made counter styles
... you added links to repos
... current TR is WG note from 3 years ago
... not a lot of updates, but have some
... republish new version?
... clreq asked why this is a separate doc
richard: probably need to publish an update
... don't recall what the changes are specifically
... how do we do a review?
<xfq> [45]https://www.w3.org/TR/predefined-counter-styles/
[45] https://www.w3.org/TR/predefined-counter-styles/
<scribe> ACTION: richard: review predefined-counter-styles for
changes and send info to group so we can take a publication
decision
<trackbot> Created ACTION-945 - Review
predefined-counter-styles for changes and send info to group so
we can take a publication decision [on Richard Ishida - due
2020-08-20].
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: apply edits discussed in telecon and
merge the normalization and localization specdev changes
[NEW] ACTION: addison: notify screen wake lock of review
complete with no issues
[NEW] ACTION: addison: publish ltli to TR
[NEW] ACTION: richard: review predefined-counter-styles for
changes and send info to group so we can take a publication
decision
[NEW] ACTION: richard: set up LTLI for echidna
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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