- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 15:00:50 +0000
- To: TTWG <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <D70E3F9E.5B093%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
This meeting is scheduled for up to 120 minutes. Please be ready for a prompt start at 10:03am Boston time. Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change. Check https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180503T10&p1=43 Thursdays 10:03am-12:00pm Boston local Joining details: see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html (members-only link if you can't see this and wish to join please contact me) Agenda+ Assign Roles Chairs: Nigel Megitt Scribe: usually Nigel open to offers! Regrets: Thierry Activity since last meeting: See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/ We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues. Please do not add or modify issues in tracker! IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead Check-point for order of topics I'd suggest, subject to reordering: 1. TTWG Charter 2. TTML1 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues 3. TTML2 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues 4. IMSC Actions, Pull Requests and Issues 5. IMSC vNext requirements Actions, Pull Requests and Issues 6. CSS Actions Review 7. WebVTT (David Singer to Chair if present) 8. HDR in PNG (placeholder) 9. AOB please notify of any other AOB now! Reminder re future milestones and meetings: May meetings: Thursday 10th May: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s) Thursday 17th May: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s) Thursday 24th May: No TTWG meeting Thursday 31st May: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s) IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work Further ahead: Thursday 7th June: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s) Thursday 14th June: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s) Thursday 21st June: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s) Thursday 28th June: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s) Agenda+ TTWG Charter What is the current status, and what do we need to do next Draft charter issues: https://github.com/w3c/charter-timed-text/issues Draft charter document: https://w3c.github.io/charter-timed-text/Draft-2018-TTWG-Charter.html Since beginning AC review, 2 issues have been opened: 2 Issues created by 2 people Opened #28 Shorten horizontal review period<https://github.com/w3c/charter-timed-text/issues/28> Opened #27 Revert Decision Policy?<https://github.com/w3c/charter-timed-text/issues/27> Agenda+ TTML1 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues Actions None in Tracker Next steps to complete the TTML1 3rd Ed implementation report? https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML1-3ED_implementation_report Recent Activity TTML1 3rd Edition CR was published on 24th April at https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/CR-ttml1-20180424/ (and pointed to by https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml1/ also). 1 Release published by 1 person Published ttml1-3ed-cr1 TTML1 3rd Edition CR1<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/releases/tag/ttml1-3ed-cr1> 1 Pull request merged by 1 person Merged #343 TTML1 3ED CR<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/343> 1 Issue closed by 1 person * Closed #337 Update SOTD in preparation for CR<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/337> Pull Requests To Review (if discussion requested) No new pull requests opened New (and old) Issues and Pull Requests to Discuss No older pull requests open. (Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.) No issues created. No issues or pull requests marked for the agenda Links TTML1 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/agenda TTML1 issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/blocked Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues Most recent TTML1 3rd Edition CR: https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/CR-ttml1-20180424/ Agenda+ TTML2 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues Actions One overdue action: ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-443<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit> open Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443> Glenn Adams 2018-04-26 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4> What needs to be done to complete the TTML2 implementation report? https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/TTML2ImplementationReport Recent Activity 1 Pull request merged by 1 person Merged #714 Fix bad links, missing quotation delimiters (#713).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/714> 1 Issue closed by 1 person Closed #713 Bad internal links.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/713> Pull Requests open for review (to discuss if requested): No pull requests opened. Plus 7 pull requests open for longer: Proposed #716 Change tts:luminanceGain to non-inheritable (#715).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/716> Proposed #705 Improve constraint/clarification semantics for animate element (#700).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/705> Proposed #707 Remove @style from animate and set (#703).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/707> Proposed #701 Fix schema typos and missing specification syntax for definition of ' <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/701> Proposed #651 Update requirements for claim of document (content) compliance (#495).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/651> Proposed #652 Resolve confusion between default and implicit (#590).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/652> Proposed #665 Clarify that metadata has no presentation semantics (#656).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/665> New (and old) Issues and Pull Requests to discuss: (Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.) TTML2 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/labels/agenda 6 Issues created by 2 people Opened #722 Derivation of tts:textShadow incorrect<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/722> Opened #721 Initial value of blur radius unspecified<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/721> Opened #720 COMMA delimiter missing in <text-shadow><https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/720> Opened #719 Add ttp:displayAspectRatio to RNC/XSD schemas<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/719> Opened #718 Add TTML feature(s) for rw/rh <length> units<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/718> Opened #717 Applicability of tts:rubyPosition<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/717> No Issues or Pull requests currently marked as Agenda. Links Most recent CR published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/CR-ttml2-20180313/ Current ED available at https://w3c.github.io/ttml2/ Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues See spreadsheet of editorial actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md Agenda+ IMSC Actions, Pull Requests and Issues Actions As per https://www.w3.org/2018/03/22-tt-minutes.html#resolution01 request transition of IMSC 1.1 to CR. Recent Activity IMSC 1.0.1 Rec has been published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/REC-ttml-imsc1.0.1-20180424/ No pull requests merged or closed. 2 Issues closed by 1 person Closed #367 Add note to tts:position that negative offsets are not allowed<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/367> Closed #368 Change copyright licence to W3C Document License<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/368> Pull Requests To Review (if discussion requested) 1 Pull request proposed by 1 person Proposed #371 IMSC 1.1 CR1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/371> Plus 1 pull request open for longer: Proposed #346 IMSC1.0.1-REC<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/346> imsc1.0.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.0.1> Since IMSC 1.0.1 Rec has been published, it's an Editor task to tag the repo as appropriate and then I think this pull request can be closed. New (and old) Issues to Discuss 6 Issues created by 1 person Opened #376 Add "permitted-deprecated" warning box for ittp:progressivelyDecodable<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/376> Opened #375 Minor editorial issues<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/375> Opened #374 Feature #background disposition<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/374> Opened #373 Feature #textOrientation-sideways-LR listed twice<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/373> Opened #372 Consider TTML feature(s) for rw/rh <length> units<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/372> Opened #370 No negative values for tts:disparity<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/370> No issues currently labelled as agenda. Links IMSC issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/agenda : IMSC issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/blocked IMSC 1.0.1 Editor's draft is directly viewable at http://w3c.github.io/imsc/imsc1/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html IMSC 1.0.1 Rec published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/REC-ttml-imsc1.0.1-20180424/ IMSC 1 Rec available at https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-ttml-imsc1-20160421/ - we have resolved to supersede this in favour of 1.0.1 Patent policy call for exclusions sent 2017-02-03, archived at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Feb/0006.html IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page. IMSC Tests repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-tests IMSC 1.1 FPWD: https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml-imsc1.1-20171017/ Unicode CLDR discussion Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915 Pierre's response to the recent update is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9 Email response from Shervin at Unicode https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html Agenda+ IMSC vNext Requirements Links IMSCvNext Requirements editor's draft: https://w3c.github.io/imsc-vnext-reqs/ IMSCvNext Requirements repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs Recent Activity 3 Pull requests merged by 1 person Merged #12 List features that are excluded from deprecation requirements<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/12> Merged #16 Constrain text emphasis position to 'outside'<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/16> Merged #21 Constrain tts:rubyReserve to 'auto'<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/21> 4 Issues closed by 1 person Closed #11 List features that are excluded from Requirement 1.3<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/issues/11> Closed #14 Specify deprecation model<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/issues/14> Closed #15 Update tts:textEmphasis constraint per TTML2 changes<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/issues/15> Closed #20 Constrain tts:rubyReserve per Netflix input document<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/issues/20> Pull requests for review (to discuss if requested) No pull requests proposed or open. PROPOSAL: Publish IMSC v1.1 Requirements as a WG Note No issues or pull requests currently marked for the agenda. No new issues created. No issues marked for the agenda at this time. Links IMSC Requirements issues labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/labels/agenda : IMSC Requirements issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/labels/blocked Agenda+ CSS actions review For reference, we have the following CSS issues open: [css-sizing][css-align][css-text] Aligning an aligned block of text within its container <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1975> TTML<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML>css-align-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-align-4> css-sizing-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-sizing-4> css-text-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-text-4> [css-inline] Allow background of an inline area to extend to before-and after-edges of the line area <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1974> TTML<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML> css-inline-3<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-inline-3> [css-inline][css-text-4] Allow padding to be applied at line start and end <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1973> TTML<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML> css-inline-3<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-inline-3>css-text-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-text-4> Are CSS issues filed for all style attributes for which we believe CSS work is needed? See also https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Nov/0109.html CSS WG review Minutes from TTWG and CSS WG joint meeting at TPAC: https://www.w3.org/2017/11/09-tt-minutes.html#item35 Minutes from CSS WG Paris F2F that Nigel attended remotely on Friday 4th August: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Sep/0000.html This is at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/CSSRequirements TAG design review issue: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/138 CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html> and Fwd: Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html> CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html> When can we schedule a review and gather feedback? Agenda+ WebVTT Actions None in tracker Links WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review Activity 1 Pull request merged by 1 person Merged #433 Use the W3C SOFTWARE AND DOCUMENT NOTICE AND LICENSE<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/433> No issues closed. 1 Pull request proposed by 1 person Proposed #439 Fix some links from the linkchecker and the broken process document link<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/439> 4 pull requests open for longer than a week: Proposed #430 Fontsize changes<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/430> Proposed #434 Add a definition of "video viewport" and how it relates in HTML5 to object size resolution.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/434> Proposed #438 Update CLA and License agreement<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/438> Proposed #419Timeranges <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/419> 3 Issues created by 1 person Opened #442 definition of a title safe area for overscan<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/442> Opened #441 Suggest edits to the "cue overlap avoidance" portion of the specification<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/441> Opened #440 Need to remove portions in the webvtt specification that shouldn't be implemented<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/440> Agenda+ HDR in PNG [placeholder agenda item] Links We published this Note at https://www.w3.org/TR/png-hdr-pq/ (republished 25th July incorporating fix for typo) Repo for PQ HDR in PNG: https://github.com/w3c/png-hdr-pq Draft WG Note: https://w3c.github.io/png-hdr-pq/ Activity None Agenda+ AOB References Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
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