{agenda} TTWG Meeting 2018-04-19

This meeting is scheduled for up to 120 minutes.
Please be ready for a prompt start at 10:03am Boston time.

Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change.

Check https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180419T10&p1=43


Thursdays 10:03am-12:00pm Boston local

Joining details:

see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html

(members-only link – if you can't see this and wish to join please contact me)

Agenda+ Assign Roles

Chairs: Nigel Megitt

Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers!

Regrets: Pierre

Activity since last meeting:
See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products

Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/

We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues.
Please do not add or modify issues in tracker!

IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse

TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse

TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse

TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse

TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse

WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse


Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead

Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering:
1. TTWG Charter
2. TTML1 3rd Ed CR, Actions, Third Edition Pull Requests and Issues
3. TTML2 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
4. IMSC Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
5. IMSC vNext requirements Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
6. CSS Actions Review
7. WebVTT (David Singer to Chair if present)
8. HDR in PNG (placeholder)
9. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!


Reminder re future milestones and meetings:

April meetings:

Thursday 26th April: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)

IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work


Further ahead:

Thursday 3rd May: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 10th May: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 17th May: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 24th May: No TTWG meeting
Thursday 31st May: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)

Agenda+ TTWG Charter

What is the current status, and what do we need to do next…

Draft charter issues: https://github.com/w3c/charter-timed-text/issues

Draft charter document: https://w3c.github.io/charter-timed-text/Draft-2018-TTWG-Charter.html




Agenda+ TTML1 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues

Actions – none in Tracker

Recent Activity

Nigel resubmitted the request to transition TTML1 3rd Edition to CR, which was approved by the Director on 6th April.

No pull requests merged or issues closed in the last week


Pull Requests To Review (if discussion requested)

No new pull requests opened


New (and old) Issues and Pull Requests to Discuss

One older pull request open:

Proposed #343 TTML1 3ED CR<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/343>


(Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.)

 1 Issue created by 1 person

  *   Opened #349 Incorrect links at #core feature<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/349>

No issues or pull requests marked for the agenda


Links

TTML1 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/agenda

TTML1 issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/blocked

Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues



Agenda+ TTML2 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues

Actions

None overdue in Tracker

Recent Activity

TTML2 CR was published earlier today: https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/CR-ttml2-20180313/



 2 Pull requests merged by 1 person
Merged #706 Remove @condition from grouping element types (#704).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/706>
Merged #708 Restore style attributes inadvertently removed (#702).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/708>

 3 Issues closed by 2 people
Closed #704 Remove @condition from animation, head, layout, resources, styling, tt elements.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/704>
Closed #702 Inline styling on tt:body<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/702>
Closed #675 Prioritise loaded fonts when selecting font.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/675>


  *   Pull Requests open for review (to discuss if requested):

 2 Pull requests proposed by 1 person
Proposed #705 Improve constraint/clarification semantics for animate element (#700).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/705>
Proposed #707 Remove @style from animate and set (#703).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/707>

Plus 4 pull requests open for longer:


Proposed #701 Fix schema typos and missing specification syntax for definition of '…<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/701>
Proposed #651 Update requirements for claim of document (content) compliance (#495).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/651>
Proposed #652 Resolve confusion between default and implicit (#590).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/652>
Proposed #665 Clarify that metadata has no presentation semantics (#656).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/665>



New (and old) Issues and Pull Requests to discuss:

(Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.)
TTML2 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/labels/agenda


 4 Issues created by 2 people
Opened #713 Incorrect internal links<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/713>
Opened #712 Incorrect "Example Rendition – Position"<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/712>
Opened #711 Disallow `<length> left` and `<length> right` syntax.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/711>
Opened #710 #origin incompatible with TTML1<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/710>


No  Issues or Pull requests currently marked as Agenda.

Links

Most recent CR published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/CR-ttml2-20180313/

Current ED available at https://w3c.github.io/ttml2/


Current open issues:  https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues

See spreadsheet of editorial actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx

Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md




Agenda+ IMSC Actions, Pull Requests and Issues

Actions

As per https://www.w3.org/2018/03/22-tt-minutes.html#resolution01 request transition of IMSC 1.1 to CR.


Recent Activity

 2 Pull requests merged by 1 person
Merged #361 Change document license back to W3C document license<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/361>
Merged #365 Fix merge errors at f72ca9867704dcef1650bf93ffe0cbb603c2c50c<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/365>


 2 Issues closed by 1 person
Closed #360 W3C Document License for IMSC 1.0.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/360>
Closed #364 Merge error<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/364>


Pull Requests To Review (if discussion requested)

 1 Pull request proposed by 1 person
Proposed #369 Document license set to W3C document license per WG resolution<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/369>

Plus 1 pull request open for longer:

Proposed #346 IMSC1.0.1-REC<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/346> imsc1.0.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.0.1>


New (and old) Issues to Discuss

 3 Issues created by 1 person
Opened #368 Change copyright licence to W3C Document License<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/368>
Opened #367 Add note to tts:position that negative offsets are not allowed<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/367>
Opened #366 tts:position should be allowed on region only<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/366>

No issues currently labelled as agenda.

Links

IMSC issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/agenda :
IMSC issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/blocked


IMSC 1.0.1
Editor's draft is directly viewable at http://w3c.github.io/imsc/imsc1/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html

IMSC 1.0.1 PR published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/PR-ttml-imsc1.0.1-20180227/

IMSC 1 Rec available at https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-ttml-imsc1-20160421/

Patent policy call for exclusions sent 2017-02-03, archived at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Feb/0006.html


IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.

IMSC Tests repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-tests


IMSC 1.1 FPWD: https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml-imsc1.1-20171017/


Unicode CLDR discussion
Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915

Pierre's response to the recent update is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9

Email response from Shervin at Unicode https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html



Agenda+ IMSC vNext Requirements


Links

IMSCvNext Requirements editor's draft: https://w3c.github.io/imsc-vnext-reqs/

IMSCvNext Requirements repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs


Recent Activity

No pull requests merged.
No issues closed.


Pull requests for review (to discuss if requested)

No pull requests proposed.

3 Pull requests open for longer than a week:

Proposed #21 Constrain tts:rubyReserve to 'auto'<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/21>

Proposed #16 Constrain text emphasis position to 'outside'<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/16>
Proposed #12 List features that are excluded from deprecation requirements<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/12>


PROPOSAL: Publish IMSC v1.1 Requirements as a WG Note

No issues or pull requests currently marked for the agenda.

No new issues created. No issues marked for the agenda at this time.

Links

IMSC Requirements issues labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/labels/agenda :
IMSC Requirements issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/labels/blocked



Agenda+ CSS actions review

The following CSS issues were recently taken up by CSS WG and updated:

[css-sizing][css-align][css-text] Aligning an aligned block of text within its container <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1975> TTML<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML>css-align-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-align-4> css-sizing-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-sizing-4> css-text-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-text-4>
[css-inline] Allow background of an inline area to extend to before-and after-edges of the line area <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1974> TTML<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML> css-inline-3<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-inline-3>
[css-inline][css-text-4] Allow padding to be applied at line start and end <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1973> TTML<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML> css-inline-3<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-inline-3>css-text-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-text-4>

Are CSS issues filed for all style attributes for which we believe CSS work is needed?

See also https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Nov/0109.html


CSS WG review

Minutes from TTWG and CSS WG joint meeting at TPAC: https://www.w3.org/2017/11/09-tt-minutes.html#item35

Minutes from CSS WG Paris F2F that Nigel attended remotely on Friday 4th August: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Sep/0000.html

This is at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/CSSRequirements


TAG design review issue: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/138


CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html> and Fwd: Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html>

CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html> When can we schedule a review and gather feedback?


Agenda+ WebVTT

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-396<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit>     open    Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>   David Singer    2015-04-17      WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
ACTION-502<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502/edit>     open    Explain to david that we need a more consistent disposition of comments for webvtt.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502>       Thierry Michel  2017-08-10      WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>



Links

WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review


Activity

David declared the call for consensus to publish WebVTT as passed at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2018Apr/0056.html


No pull requests merged.

No issues closed.

No pull requests opened.

6 pull requests open for longer than a week:

Proposed #430 Fontsize changes<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/430> 5
Proposed #433 Use the W3C SOFTWARE AND DOCUMENT NOTICE AND LICENSE<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/433>
Proposed #434 Add a definition of "video viewport" and how it relates in HTML5 to object size resolution.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/434>
Proposed #437 Clarify relationship between CR and CG report<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/437>
Proposed #438 Update CLA and License agreement<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/438>
Proposed #419Timeranges <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/419>

No issues created.

Agenda+ HDR in PNG [placeholder agenda item]

Links

We published this Note at https://www.w3.org/TR/png-hdr-pq/ (republished 25th July incorporating fix for typo)

Repo for PQ HDR in PNG: https://github.com/w3c/png-hdr-pq

Draft WG Note: https://w3c.github.io/png-hdr-pq/


Activity

None

Agenda+ AOB

References

Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText






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