- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 16:56:50 +0000
- To: "public-tt@w3.org" <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <D6EAC24F.5903C%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
This meeting is scheduled for up to 120 minutes.
Please be ready for a prompt start at 10:03am Boston time.
Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change.
Check https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180405T10&p1=43
Thursdays 10:03am-12:00pm Boston local
Joining details:
see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html
(members-only link – if you can't see this and wish to join please contact me)
Agenda+ Assign Roles
Chairs: Nigel Megitt
Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers!
Regrets: Andreas
Activity since last meeting:
See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products
Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/
We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues.
Please do not add or modify issues in tracker!
IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse
TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse
TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse
TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse
TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse
WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse
Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead
Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering:
1. TTWG Charter
2. TTML1 3rd Ed CR, Actions, Third Edition Pull Requests and Issues
3. TTML2 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
4. IMSC Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
5. IMSC vNext requirements Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
6. CSS Actions Review
7. WebVTT (David Singer to Chair if present)
8. HDR in PNG (placeholder)
9. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!
Reminder re future milestones and meetings:
April meetings:
Thursday 12th April: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s) NM unavailable
Thursday 19th April: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 26th April: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work
Further ahead:
Thursday 3rd May: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 10th May: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 17th May: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Week commencing 21st May: F2F meeting?
Thursday 24th May: No TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 31st May: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Agenda+ TTWG Charter
What is the current status, and what do we need to do next…
Draft charter issues: https://github.com/w3c/charter-timed-text/issues
Draft charter document: https://w3c.github.io/charter-timed-text/Draft-2018-TTWG-Charter.html
Agenda+ F2F meeting?
Proposal to hold an F2F meeting at IRT in Munich in week commencing 21st May, main agenda likely to be TTML2 and IMSC 1.1 test suites.
Agenda+ TTML1 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
Actions – none in Tracker
Recent Activity
Thierry submitted the request to transition TTML1 3rd Edition to CR.
The Director requested further evidence (e.g. tests) to demonstrate that the substantive changes have been implemented. The proposed CR has been updated in pull request #343 to update the SOTD to refer to an implementation report. Resubmit?
No pull requests merged or issues closed in the last week
Pull Requests To Review (if discussion requested)
No new pull requests opened
New (and old) Issues and Pull Requests to Discuss
One older pull request open:
Proposed #343 TTML1 3ED CR<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/343>
(Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.)
No new issues opened.
No issues or pull requests marked for the agenda
Links
TTML1 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/agenda
TTML1 issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/blocked
Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues
Agenda+ TTML2 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
Actions
None overdue in Tracker
Recent Activity
TTML2 CR was published earlier today: https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/CR-ttml2-20180313/
No pull requests merged.
No issues closed.
* Pull Requests open for review (to discuss if requested):
4 Pull request proposed by 1 person
Proposed #705 Improve constraint/clarification semantics for animate element (#700).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/705>
Proposed #706 Remove @condition from grouping element types (#704).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/706>
Proposed #707 Remove @style from animate and set (#703).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/707>
Proposed #708 Restore style attributes inadvertently removed (#702).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/708>
Plus 4 pull requests open for longer:
Proposed #701 Fix schema typos and missing specification syntax for definition of '…<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/701>
Proposed #651 Update requirements for claim of document (content) compliance (#495).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/651>
Proposed #652 Resolve confusion between default and implicit (#590).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/652>
Proposed #665 Clarify that metadata has no presentation semantics (#656).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/665>
New (and old) Issues and Pull Requests to discuss:
(Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.)
TTML2 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/labels/agenda
1 Issue created by 1 person
Opened #709 Derivation is missing for tts:rubyReserve<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/709>
One Issues or Pull requests currently marked as Agenda:
#699 Animate @calcMode value displace{,d} should read paced. <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/699> agenda<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aagenda> pr open<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3A%22pr+open%22> substantive<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Asubstantive>
Links
Most recent CR published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/CR-ttml2-20180313/
Current ED available at https://w3c.github.io/ttml2/
Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues
See spreadsheet of editorial actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx
Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md
Agenda+ IMSC Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
Actions
As per https://www.w3.org/2018/03/22-tt-minutes.html#resolution01 request transition of IMSC 1.1 to CR.
Recent Activity
6 Pull requests merged by 1 person
Merged #339 Point reader to Media Accessibility User Requirements<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/339>
Merged #326 Add explanatory text on profiles and processors<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/326>
Merged #354 Clarify the use of recommended character sets<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/354>
Merged #357 Editorial tweaks<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/357>
Merged #352 Update feature lists per requirements and deprecation strategy<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/352>
Merged #350 Update feature list per TTML2<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/350>
19 Issues closed by 1 person
Closed #321 APA comment: align altText restrictions with HTML alt attribute<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/321>
Closed #315 APA comment: Improve introduction<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/315>
Closed #316 APA comment: presentation customisation<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/316>
Closed #317 APA comment: Meet WCAG SC 1.4.1 requirement<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/317>
Closed #318 APA comment: specify association between image and text profile documents<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/318>
Closed #319 APA comment: permit font related features in Image profile<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/319>
Closed #320 APA comment: richer semantic layers than forcedDisplay allows<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/320>
Closed #362 Update Section L.2<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/362>
Closed #236 Should the character sets be minimum *font* requirements?<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/236>
Closed #294 IMSC 1.1 Editorial task list<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/294>
Closed #292 Port IMSC 1.0.1 modifications to IMSC 1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/292>
Closed #351 #activeArea is missing from permitted features<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/351>
Closed #342 #fontKerning is erroneously permitted<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/342>
Closed #343 #region-timing is erroneously prohibited<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/343>
Closed #344 Constrain tts:rubyAlign values<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/344>
Closed #345 Constrain tts:rubyPosition<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/345>
Closed #348 Constrain #textEmphasis<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/348>
Closed #349 #textOrientation is erroneously permitted<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/349>
Closed #341 Update feature list per TTML2 CR<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/341>
Pull Requests To Review (if discussion requested)
No new pull requests proposed.
Plus 8 pull requests open for longer:
Proposed #346 IMSC1.0.1-REC<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/346> imsc1.0.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.0.1>
Proposed #350 Update feature list per TTML2<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/350>
Proposed #352 Update feature lists per requirements and deprecation strategy<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/352> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
Proposed #354 Clarify the use of recommended character sets<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/354> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
Proposed #357 Editorial tweaks<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/357> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
Proposed #358 Refactor profile signalling provisions<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/358> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
Proposed #339 Point reader to Media Accessibility User Requirements<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/339> horizontal-review<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Ahorizontal-review> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
Proposed #326 Add explanatory text on profiles and processors<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/326> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
New (and old) Issues to Discuss
3 Issues created by 1 person
Opened #364 Merge error<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/364>
Opened #363 Color-code Section 6 to ease reading<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/363>
Opened #360 W3C Document License for IMSC 1.0.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/360>
No issues currently labelled as agenda.
Links
IMSC issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/agenda :
IMSC issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/blocked
IMSC 1.0.1
Editor's draft is directly viewable at http://w3c.github.io/imsc/imsc1/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html
IMSC 1.0.1 PR published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/PR-ttml-imsc1.0.1-20180227/
IMSC 1 Rec available at https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-ttml-imsc1-20160421/
Patent policy call for exclusions sent 2017-02-03, archived at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Feb/0006.html
IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.
IMSC Tests repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-tests
IMSC 1.1 FPWD: https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml-imsc1.1-20171017/
Unicode CLDR discussion
Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915
Pierre's response to the recent update is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9
Email response from Shervin at Unicode https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html
Agenda+ IMSC vNext Requirements
Links
IMSCvNext Requirements editor's draft: https://w3c.github.io/imsc-vnext-reqs/
IMSCvNext Requirements repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs
Recent Activity
1 Pull request merged by 1 person
Merged #19 Replace #ruby-non-nested with #ruby<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/19>
1 Issue closed by 1 person
Closed #18 Nested ruby support has been removed from TTML2<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/issues/18>
Pull requests for review (to discuss if requested)
1 Pull request proposed by 1 person
Proposed #21 Constrain tts:rubyReserve to 'auto'<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/21>
* Plus 2 Pull requests open for longer than a week:
Proposed #16 Constrain text emphasis position to 'outside'<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/16>
Proposed #12 List features that are excluded from deprecation requirements<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/12>
PROPOSAL: Publish IMSC v1.1 Requirements as a WG Note
No issues or pull requests currently marked for the agenda.
1 Issue created by 1 person
Opened #20 Constrain tts:rubyReserve per Netflix input document<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/issues/20>
*
Links
IMSC Requirements issues labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/labels/agenda :
IMSC Requirements issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/labels/blocked
Agenda+ CSS actions review
Are CSS issues filed for all style attributes for which we believe CSS work is needed?
See also https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Nov/0109.html
CSS WG review
Minutes from TTWG and CSS WG joint meeting at TPAC: https://www.w3.org/2017/11/09-tt-minutes.html#item35
Minutes from CSS WG Paris F2F that Nigel attended remotely on Friday 4th August: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Sep/0000.html
This is at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/CSSRequirements
TAG design review issue: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/138
CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html> and Fwd: Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html>
CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html> When can we schedule a review and gather feedback?
Agenda+ WebVTT
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-396<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit> open Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396> David Singer 2015-04-17 WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
ACTION-502<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502/edit> open Explain to david that we need a more consistent disposition of comments for webvtt.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502> Thierry Michel 2017-08-10 WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
Links
WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
Activity
2 Pull requests merged by 1 person
Merged #432 Fix process document link to 2018 doc & add changes<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/432>
Merged #429 Adding a new snapshot.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/429>
No issues closed.
5 Pull requests proposed by 2 people
Proposed #430 Fontsize changes<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/430> 5
Proposed #433 Use the W3C SOFTWARE AND DOCUMENT NOTICE AND LICENSE<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/433>
Proposed #434 Add a definition of "video viewport" and how it relates in HTML5 to object size resolution.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/434>
Proposed #437 Clarify relationship between CR and CG report<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/437>
Proposed #438 Update CLA and License agreement<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/438>
*
Plus 1 Pull request open for longer:
Proposed #419Timeranges <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/419>
2 Issues created by 2 people
Opened #436 Clarify SOTD and abstract of proposed CR<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/436>
Opened #435 Full support for Japanese subtitles<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/435>
Agenda+ HDR in PNG [placeholder agenda item]
Links
We published this Note at https://www.w3.org/TR/png-hdr-pq/ (republished 25th July incorporating fix for typo)
Repo for PQ HDR in PNG: https://github.com/w3c/png-hdr-pq
Draft WG Note: https://w3c.github.io/png-hdr-pq/
Activity
None
Agenda+ AOB
References
Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
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