- From: Becky Gibson <becky@knowbility.org>
- Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 21:37:59 -0500
- To: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
- Cc: "Gottfried Zimmermann (Lists)" <zimmermann@accesstechnologiesgroup.com>, W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <8BC2C419-9E43-46F0-A634-7D91C9F16E2E@knowbility.org>
Yeah, live and learn. I guess just pressing +1 is not enough - you need to also manually type your name. > On Jan 10, 2018, at 5:43 PM, John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com> wrote: > > Thanks for this Gottfried. > > I note that some attendees on the call forgot to do their Present+, thus suggesting via the minutes that there was only 1 person present for the call. Not a huge issue, but a friendly reminder that this is something you should be doing whenever you enter the IRC channel... (not just for this WG, but all W3C calls where Zakim is present). > > JF > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Gottfried Zimmermann (Lists) <zimmermann@accesstechnologiesgroup.com <mailto:zimmermann@accesstechnologiesgroup.com>> wrote: > HTML format: https://www.w3.org/2018/01/10-apa-minutes.html <https://www.w3.org/2018/01/10-apa-minutes.html> > Text format: See bottom of this message. > > Summary of Action Items > [NEW] ACTION: cooper to ping review of Web Annotation Extensions for Web > Publications - due 6 months > > Best regards, > Gottfried > ___________________________________________________ > > Prof. Dr. Gottfried Zimmermann > Mobile User Interaction > ___________________________________________________ > > [1]W3C > > [1] http://www.w3.org/ <http://www.w3.org/> > > Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference > > 10 Jan 2018 > > [2]Agenda > > [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2018Jan/0011.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2018Jan/0011.html> > > Attendees > > Present > gottfried > > Regrets > Léonie, JF > > Chair > SV_MEETING_CHAIR > > Scribe > gottfried > > Contents > > * [3]Topics > 1. [4]preview agenda with items from two minutes > 2. [5]CSS A11y TF > 3. [6]Actions Checkin (Specs) > https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8 <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8> > 4. [7]new on TR > http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html <http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html> > 5. [8]APA and W3C Verticals -- Leonie > 6. [9]Charter Renewal > * [10]Summary of Action Items > * [11]Summary of Resolutions > __________________________________________________________ > > preview agenda with items from two minutes > > <scribe> scribe: gottfried > > CSS A11y TF > > Michael: Neither Ian nor Janina are here - nothing to discuss. > > Actions Checkin (Specs) > [12]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8 <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8> > > [12] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8 <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8> > > action-2123? > > <trackbot> action-2123 -- Ted Drake to Triage changelog of dom > 4.1 > [13]https://www.w3.org/tr/dom41/#historical-changes-fpwd-dom4 <https://www.w3.org/tr/dom41/#historical-changes-fpwd-dom4> - > note stuff on mutation -- due 2017-04-19 -- OPEN > > [13] https://www.w3.org/tr/dom41/#historical-changes-fpwd-dom4 <https://www.w3.org/tr/dom41/#historical-changes-fpwd-dom4> > > <trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2123 <http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2123> > > [14] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2123 <http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2123> > > Ted: Started - hope to finish soon. > > <MichaelC> action-2123 due 2 weeks > > <trackbot> Set action-2123 Triage changelog of dom 4.1 > [15]https://www.w3.org/tr/dom41/#historical-changes-fpwd-dom4 <https://www.w3.org/tr/dom41/#historical-changes-fpwd-dom4> - > note stuff on mutation due date to 2018-01-24. > > [15] https://www.w3.org/tr/dom41/#historical-changes-fpwd-dom4 <https://www.w3.org/tr/dom41/#historical-changes-fpwd-dom4> > > action-2152? > > <trackbot> action-2152 -- Gottfried Zimmermann to Review ttml > profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.1 > [16]https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.1/ <https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.1/> -- due 2017-11-15 -- > PENDINGREVIEW > > [16] https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.1/ <https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.1/> > > <trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2152 <http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2152> > > [17] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2152 <http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2152> > > Michael: I need to ping Janina on that. > > action-2052? > > <trackbot> action-2052 -- Becky Gibson to Review > [18]https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/ <https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/> shadow dom -- due > 2017-02-01 -- OPEN > > [18] https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/ <https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/> > > <trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2052 <http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2052> > > [19] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2052 <http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2052> > > <MichaelC> action-2052 due 4 weeks > > <trackbot> Set action-2052 Review > [20]https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/ <https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/> shadow dom due date to > 2018-02-07. > > [20] https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/ <https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/> > > new on TR [21]http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html <http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html> > > [21] http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html <http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html> > > Michael: Skipping CSS specs - wait until Ian is here. > > <MichaelC> [22]Packaged Web Publications > > [22] https://www.w3.org/TR/pwpub/ <https://www.w3.org/TR/pwpub/> > > Michael: We said we don't need review for packaging format. So > here neither? > > Janina: Don't need to review this. > > Michael: HTML 5.3 - wait for Leonie > > <MichaelC> [23]ODRL Information Model 2.2 > > [23] https://www.w3.org/TR/odrl-model/ <https://www.w3.org/TR/odrl-model/> > > Janina: Used for DAISY already. Don't expect any issues. > ... Has been used since the late 90s. > ... We managed to settle on how to do DRM if people want > > Michael: Previously, we said we need to make sure DPUB knows > about this. > ... Marking as not needed. > > <MichaelC> [24]Web Annotation Extensions for Web Publications > > [24] https://www.w3.org/TR/wpub-ann/ <https://www.w3.org/TR/wpub-ann/> > > Michael: They don't take over annotations - just extending for > publishing > ... Web Annotation Data Model went to REC > > Janina: I trust publishing. But wouldn't hurt to look at it at > some point - too much right now. > ... Defer 6 months > > <MichaelC> ACTION: cooper to ping review of Web Annotation > Extensions for Web Publications - due 6 months > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-2165 - Ping review of web annotation > extensions for web publications [on Michael Cooper - due > 2018-07-10]. > > <MichaelC> action-2165: [25]https://www.w3.org/TR/wpub-ann/ <https://www.w3.org/TR/wpub-ann/> > > [25] https://www.w3.org/TR/wpub-ann/ <https://www.w3.org/TR/wpub-ann/> > > <trackbot> Notes added to action-2165 Ping review of web > annotation extensions for web publications. > > <MichaelC> action-2165: > [26]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Annotation_Extensions_f <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Annotation_Extensions_f> > or_Web_Publications > > [26] > https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Annotation_Extensions_for_Web_Publicatio <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Annotation_Extensions_for_Web_Publicatio> > ns > > <trackbot> Notes added to action-2165 Ping review of web > annotation extensions for web publications. > > APA and W3C Verticals -- Leonie > > Janina: Leonie is going to lead this discussion. Talking about > stacks and people to become involved in. > > Michael: Leonie was interested in WebVR, CSS (we already have a > TF for that) > ... We might want to set up user requirements files for these > verticals. > > Janina: Authenticaion, payment, automotive, media > ... Media is probably going to work via publishing - Community > Group > > Michael: Should we add AI to the list? > > Janina: List as candidate in new charter draft? > ... Idea would be interop across platforms. > > Michael: Address a11y problems in AI applications. > > Janina: And Web of Things > > Michael: Graphics, and more in relation with other groups, e.g. > i18n > ... architecture, a11y technical coordination > ... We should play a role that multiple guidelines are aligned > ... APA might want to become more active on this > > Janina: We have a number of APA people who are active in WCAG > ... So we should be able to do that. > > Michael: Topic personalization needs to be monitored and > coordinated with other topics > ... Make sure we are all working on a common solution > > Becky: Also AR? > > Michael: I believe there is or was a workshop on it > ... Worth tracking > > Janina: Probably being folded into VR > > Michael: Could be, but AR has additional challenges of > interfering with the real world. > > Gottfried: Smart cities & smart homes > > Michael: Those are probably subcategories > ... In automotive it is about Web of Things in a car. > ... Janina, what else did you want to talk about here? > ... Anybody interested in being involved in these topics? > > Becky: smart cities > > Gottfried: e-learning - i am involved in the CG > > Michael: Overlaps a bit with publishing > ... E-learning is the prime reason why publishing is interested > in a11y > > Gottfried: Also interested in Web of Things, smarthomes, smart > cities - but depends on time > > Michael: People can help to build groups and draw other people > in > > Becky: Put me down for AR - but limited time > > Michael: Ian on CSS > > Janina: Me on payments > > Ted: Me on payments also > > Michael: For media: John and Janina > ... Automotive: Janina > ... Publishing: Gottfried in e-Learning, but we might want > another driver for publishing > > Becky: I have experience on Readium > > Janina: Jason for authentication > > Michael: Judy for AI? > > Janina: Okay > ... SVG is active again > > Michael: Need a coordination session for graphics > > Janina: Suggest Amelia > > Michael: Now i have a name for each of the verticals. > > Charter Renewal > > Janina: Say something about verticals. Some will be active, > some be pending. > ... Other than that, i don't think we want to change anything > else. > ... Spec reviews will still be our main work. > > Michael: Structure so that we don't need to deliver on all > verticals. > > Janina: Yes, that would be too ambitious. > > Michael: Some might need to be refined. > ... Spec review documents - not sure > > Janina: A11y impact statements should be included. > > Michael: Need to review our dependencies > ... Move XTECH > > Janina: Review consensus and review policy. But don't think we > need to change anything. > > Michael: No major issues yet - but may be due to small group > ... Some people say cfc must be open for a week, other only 48 > hours > ... Compromise might be that it should be in the range of 48h - > 1 week > > Janina: Usually we make the cfc for 48 hours, even though the > date may be a week away > > Michael: In WCAG, sometimes people may record objections, but > the chair may overrule. > ... APA policy allows for that as well, but we are more > cautious. > ... Need to think about the license for our publications. > ... Document license > ... Software & document license for code samples. > ... If we only do non-normative things, we may not need a hard > copyright > ... But we have to state our license preference in the charter > > Janina: Need to discuss this and come to an agreement > > Michael: My personal opinion is that non-normative things > should be under software & doc license. But normative things > should be under doc license. > ... Half-completed draft by me > > Becky: Link to it? > > Michael: The link is in the charter. > ... Later content is in the checklist > ... Need to do a redirect > ... Emphasis on verticals is a new thing for the charter > > Janina: It will be useful to get people involved > ... We got good support by HTML5 on user a11y requirements > ... Publishing needs - non-temporal document as master source > > Summary of Action Items > > [NEW] ACTION: cooper to ping review of Web Annotation > Extensions for Web Publications - due 6 months > > Summary of Resolutions > > [End of minutes] > __________________________________________________________ > > > Minutes formatted by David Booth's [27]scribe.perl version > 1.152 ([28]CVS log) > $Date: 2018/01/10 18:02:18 $ > __________________________________________________________ > > [27] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm> > [28] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/> > > Scribe.perl diagnostic output > > [Delete this section before finalizing the minutes.] > This is scribe.perl Revision: 1.152 of Date: 2017/02/06 11:04:15 > Check for newer version at [29]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ > scribe/ <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/> > > [29] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/ <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/> > > Guessing input format: Irssi_ISO8601_Log_Text_Format (score 1.00) > > Succeeded: s/packaging spec/packaging format/ > Succeeded: s/CSS docs/CSS specs/ > Succeeded: s/word/world/ > Succeeded: s/XTAG/XTECH/ > Succeeded: s/wekk/week/ > Found embedded ScribeOptions: -final > > *** RESTARTING DUE TO EMBEDDED OPTIONS *** > > Default Present: gottfried > Present: gottfried > > WARNING: Fewer than 3 people found for Present list! > > Regrets: Léonie JF > Found Scribe: gottfried > Inferring ScribeNick: gottfried > Agenda: [30]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2018Jan/0011 > .html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2018Jan/0011.html> > > [30] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2018Jan/0011.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2018Jan/0011.html> > > WARNING: No meeting chair found! > You should specify the meeting chair like this: > <dbooth> Chair: dbooth > > Found Date: 10 Jan 2018 > People with action items: cooper > > WARNING: IRC log location not specified! 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