Re: Agenda: APA Weekly Teleconference; Wednesday 4 November 17:00 UTC from Matthew Atkinson on 2020-11-04 (public-apa@w3.org from November 2020)

From: Matthew Atkinson <matkinson@paciellogroup.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 18:03:13 +0000
To: Becky Gibson <becky@knowbility.org>, W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
Message-ID: <7E5A2371-8F6B-42EF-A37B-61A9984B589B@tpgi.com>
Hello all,

You can find the minutes at https://www.w3.org/2020/11/04-apa-minutes.html and repeated below for convenience.

Best regards,


Matthew

  - DRAFT -


  Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference


    04 Nov 2020


    Attendees

Present
    paul_grenier, Matthew_Atkinson, becky, amy_c, NeilS
Regrets
Chair
    becky
Scribe
    Matthew_Atkinson


    Contents

  * Topics <#agenda>
     1. Agenda Review & Announcements <#item01>
     2. Calendar for remainder of the year <#item02>
     3. APA Rechartering Begins - https://www.w3.org/2018/08/apa-charter

        <#item03>
     4. TPAC 2020 Review -
        https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2020 <#item04>
     5. Task Force Updates <#item05>
     6. New Charters Review
        https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22

        <#item06>
     7. new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html <#item07>
     8. CSS Checkin (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues <#item08>
     9. Actions Checkin (Specs)
        https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open <#item09>
    10. Horizontal Review Issues Tracker
        https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

        <#item10>
    11. Other Business <#item11>
    12. be done <#item12>
  * Summary of Action Items <#ActionSummary>
  * Summary of Resolutions <#ResolutionSummary>

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<becky> regrets, Gottfried Zimmermann

<scribe> scribe: Matthew_Atkinson


      Agenda Review & Announcements


      Calendar for remainder of the year

Becky: No meeting the week of US Thanksgiving (w/c 23rd of November). No
meeting on the 23rd nor the 30th of December.
... There will be a meeting on the 11th of November.


      APA Rechartering Begins - https://www.w3.org/2018/08/apa-charter

      <https://www.w3.org/2018/08/apa-charter>

<MichaelC> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html

<https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html>

Michael: Current focus is on Scope section—please check it out—and then
Deliverables.

Becky: TFs should say if they want anything adding specifically?

Michael: We should ensure the Scope section allows for this (the last
bullet point in Scope should satisfy this).

Becky: The TFs' expected deliverables still need to be added to the 2.1
Normative Specifications section?

Michael: Yes. Timelines need to be considered too.


      TPAC 2020 Review -
      https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2020

      <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2020>

<NeilS> MA: Review of his TPAC -- discussed how systems could be made
more adaptive

<NeilS> ... great discussions. suggestions on how this might achieved

<NeilS> ... eithical questions about privacy

<NeilS> ... there were minutes taken. On TPAC page

Link to presentation (which includes the link to the minutes):
http://matatk.agrip.org.uk/talks/2020/innovative-adaptations/

<http://matatk.agrip.org.uk/talks/2020/innovative-adaptations/>

<paul_grenier> https://www.w3.org/2020/10/27-voice-agents-minutes.html

<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/27-voice-agents-minutes.html>

Paul: A lot of interest; expecting the workshop will go forward in 2021.
The group is eager for recruits.
... Ther are two open source projects of interest to follow up on.
However, a notable absence of platform vendors in this area.

<NeilS> MA: recap of meeting on tests

https://www.w3.org/2020/10/TPAC/breakout-schedule.html#wptcoverage

<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/TPAC/breakout-schedule.html#wptcoverage>

<NeilS> MA: meeting was about how specs should have database of test
coverage of the spec

<NeilS> ... how to get good test coverage. both depth and breadth

<NeilS> ...it was mostly WPA (web platform archetecture specs)

<NeilS> ... biggest challenge is making sure that the tests submitted
are good tests. There is a backlog to review the tests

<NeilS> ... really important problem

<NeilS> ... from a personal perspective, it would be good to look at how
accessibility is covered

<NeilS> Paul: was there any coordination with ACT group?

<NeilS> MA: I'm aware of aria testing, but I think it is trying to solve
a different problem. I need to learn more about ARIA testing

Neil: Ran a breakout about MathML and maybe forming a working group.
General positive interest. The proposal contains some ways to improve
MathML accessibility by allowing authors to express intent behind parts
of the math.

Becky: Was there any industry representation?

Neil: There was quite wide attendance, but unclear at the moment; lots
of questions about how to overcome the various known technical barriers,
e.g. implementing missing elements via the Shadow DOM etc.
... It's currently a community group, but hoping to form a working group.
... "MathML core" is in Chromium behind some flags; hopefully more
progress soon.


      Task Force Updates

Becky: Personalization is working on current raised issues and feedback.

Paul: Pronunciation's next decision point is making a decision on
technology choice. Feels it's likely to be based on an attribute model
(following discussion in the TAG meeting). May request a prefix down the
line.

Neil: Not been able to elicit major input from vendors on this.
... Industry represenation we have is from publishing.

Paul: Taking forward the attribute model may help us elicit further
feedback.


      New Charters Review
      https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22

      <https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22>

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/2020/10/webperf.html

<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/webperf.html>

Michael: We felt that this was low-level so not within our remit.

*no opposition from group*


      new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

      <http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html>

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/CSS_Box_Sizing_Module_Level_4

<https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/CSS_Box_Sizing_Module_Level_4>

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/CSS_Box_Model_Module_Level_4

<https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/CSS_Box_Model_Module_Level_4>

Amy: Checked the Box Sizing Module Level 4; OK (not the Box Model Module
Level 4).
... Clarification: checked the Box Sizing Module Level 3; not 4.

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Clipboard_API_and_events

<https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Clipboard_API_and_events>

Michael: We reviewed it ~4yrs ago; filed an issue but not sure how it
was resolved.
... *checks* The issue we filed was resolved.

<MichaelC> *ACTION:* becky to re-review Clipboard API and events
http://www.w3.org/TR/clipboard-apis/ <http://www.w3.org/TR/clipboard-apis/>

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2265 - Re-review clipboard api and events
http://www.w3.org/tr/clipboard-apis/

<http://www.w3.org/tr/clipboard-apis/> [on Becky Gibson - due 2020-11-11].


      CSS Checkin (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues

      <https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues>

<MichaelC> action-2265:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Clipboard_API_and_events

<https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Clipboard_API_and_events>

<trackbot> Notes added to action-2265 Re-review clipboard api and events
http://www.w3.org/tr/clipboard-apis/. <http://www.w3.org/tr/clipboard-apis/>

Amy: *is working on being able to attend CSS meetings*

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/groups/wg/css/participants

<https://www.w3.org/groups/wg/css/participants>


      Actions Checkin (Specs)
      https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open

      <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open>

Becky: Please check the link and ensure that you don't have outstanding
actions.


      Horizontal Review Issues Tracker
      https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

      <https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review>

<MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5671

<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5671>

Michael: Is this an issue that's relevant to APA? Assuming yes.

Becky: *agrees*

Michael: Pleaes check out the link and subscribe to the issue if you're
interested.

<MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5594

<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5594>

<MichaelC> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/5042

<https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/5042>

Becky: this could help voice control users too

Michael: should we involve the ARIA group?

Becky: *agrees*

Paul: It seems you'd only want this [the decoration] to show up if
someone starts trying to use an access key.

<MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/html-aam/issues/309

<https://github.com/w3c/html-aam/issues/309>

Michael: Our tracking tool doesn't provide updates on open issues (only
tells us when they're closed) so anyone who's interested in following
these issues should visit the GitHub page and use the Subscribe button,
to get update notifications.

Becky: ACK; subscribed


      Other Business


      be done


    Summary of Action Items

*[NEW]* *ACTION:* becky to re-review Clipboard API and events
http://www.w3.org/TR/clipboard-apis/ <http://www.w3.org/TR/clipboard-apis/>


    Summary of Resolutions

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From: Becky Gibson <becky@knowbility.org>
Date: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 at 15:31
To: W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
Subject: Agenda: APA Weekly Teleconference; Wednesday 4 November 17:00 UTC
Resent from: <public-apa@w3.org>
Resent date: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 at 15:30

Zoom teleconference info is available at this non-public page:
https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa


Minutes from our last teleconference are available at:
https://www.w3.org/2020/10/07-apa-minutes.html


What: APA Weekly Teleconference
When: Wednesday, November 4, 2020
12:00 PM Boston -- U.S. Eastern Time (EST: UTC -5)
Corresponding times in other time zones are:
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=APA+Teleconference&iso=20201104T12&p1=43&ah=1

Where: Zoom Teleconference Service
https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa

IRC: irc.w3.org<unsafe:about:blank> Channel: #apa
Additional logistics below

** Preliminary Agenda for APA WG Telecon  November 4, 2020

agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
agenda+ Calendar for remainder of the year
agenda+ APA Rechartering Begins - https://www.w3.org/2018/08/apa-charter

agenda+ TPAC 2020 Review - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2020

agenda+ Task Force Updates
agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22

agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

agenda+ CSS Checkin (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues

agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
agenda+ Horizontal Review Issues Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

agenda+ Other Business
agenda+ be done

Resource: APA & Task Force Teleconference Minutes
APA Telecon: https://www.w3.org/2020/10/07-apa-minutes.html

RQTF: https://www.w3.org/2020/10/21-rqtf-minutes.html

COGA TF: https://www.w3.org/2020/10/22-coga-minutes.html

p13n: https://www.w3.org/2020/10/19-personalization-minutes.html

Pronunciation: https://www.w3.org/2020/10/07-pronunciation-minutes.html


Resource: FAST & Horizontal Reviews
Framework: http://w3c.github.io/apa/fast/

Checklist: http://w3c.github.io/apa/fast/checklist


Resource: Pronunciation Task Force
Email: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pronunciation/

Wiki: https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/wiki

Issues: https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues

github: https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation

Home Page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/pronunciation/

Work Statement: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/pronunciation/work-statement


Resource: Personalization Task Force:
Overview: https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/TPAC2019-WebApps-Symbols-Overview

Specification: https://www.w3.org/TR/personalization-semantics-1.0/

Email Archive: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/

Wiki: https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki

Issue Tracker: https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues

Home Page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/personalization/

Work Statement: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/personalization/work-statement


Resource: COGA Task Force
Wiki: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/

Email Archive: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/

Publication: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/changes-after-0327/content-usable/index.html

Home Page: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/

Work Statement: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/work-statement


Resource: Research Questions Task Force (RQTF)
Wiki: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Main_Page

Email Archive: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rqtf/

Home Page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/

Work Statement: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/work-statement


Resource: CSS Accessibility Task Force
Home Page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/css-a11y/

Work Statement: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/css-a11y/work-statement

Issue Tracker: https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues


Resource: Key APA Pages For Reference
Your personal tracker: http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/users/my

APA Tracker (Issues and Actions): http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track

Issues Dashboard: https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

Spec Review History: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review

CG Review Matrix: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Community_Groups

Verticals Matrix: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Verticals_to_Track

Home Page: http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/

Charter: http://www.w3.org/2015/10/apa-charter.html

Decision Policy: http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/decision-policy

Member List: https://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/83907/status

W3C Process for Busy People:
https://github.com/w3c/wg-effectiveness/blob/master/process.md


Resource: Webex & Teleconference Logistics
Teleconference Data: https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa

Zoom Best Practices: https://www.w3.org/Guide/meetings/zoom.html


*IRC Logistics
IRC: server: irc.w3.org<unsafe:about:blank>, channel: #APA

IMPORTANT: Upon joining IRC, please identify yourself:
present+ [your_name]
Ex: present+ Janina_Sajka

* Some helpful Scribing and Participation Tips
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Teleconference_cheat_sheet


For more on the IRC setup and the robots we use for agenda and speaker
queuing and for posting the log to the web, see:

- For RRSAgent, that captures and posts the log with special attention
 to action items:
http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent


- For Zakim, the IRC interface to the bridge manager, that will maintain
 speaker and agenda queues:
http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot


- For a Web gateway to IRC you can use if your network administrators
 forbid IRC, see:
http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc


- For more on W3C use of IRC see:
http://www.w3.org/Project/IRC/


Becky Gibson | Sr. Accessibility Strategist, Knowbility.org, becky@knowbility.org
co-chair Accessible Platforms Architectures (APA) Working Group, w3.org
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