WEBVTT 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:02.833 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: For the reporting support tools, I 00:00:02.899 --> 00:00:05.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:55% would like to call Eric Velleman from the 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:08.566 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% Accessibility Foundation to come to the virtual stage. 00:00:08.633 --> 00:00:12.166 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:55% Eric, please introduce yourself and take it 00:00:12.233 --> 00:00:14.733 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:38% away from here. 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:16.199 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Okay. So, hi. 00:00:16.266 --> 00:00:18.266 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:45% I'm Eric Velleman. 00:00:18.333 --> 00:00:25.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% And let me first start up here on my desktop here. 00:00:25.066 --> 00:00:27.566 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:68% So I hope you all see this. 00:00:27.633 --> 00:00:32.633 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:45% That should be it. 00:00:35.766 --> 00:00:36.666 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:53% So I'm Eric Velleman. 00:00:36.733 --> 00:00:40.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% I'm from the -- I work at the Accessibility Foundation 00:00:40.100 --> 00:00:41.766 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% in the Netherlands. 00:00:41.833 --> 00:00:46.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% We worked on the ACT Rules and on the 00:00:46.500 --> 00:00:48.233 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:60% reporting support tools. 00:00:48.299 --> 00:00:50.399 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:53% So I'll be presenting the two tools that we 00:00:50.466 --> 00:00:53.633 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% worked on recently. 00:00:53.700 --> 00:00:56.600 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:53% Both tools are undergoing an update. 00:00:56.666 --> 00:00:59.700 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% And in this short -- the two short presentations that will 00:00:59.766 --> 00:01:03.700 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% follow now, I'll show you what the updated tools 00:01:03.766 --> 00:01:05.200 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:38% will look like. 00:01:05.266 --> 00:01:08.266 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% And probably -- and I hope you can see them soon 00:01:08.333 --> 00:01:12.400 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% on the W3C website. 00:01:12.466 --> 00:01:13.700 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:13% Okay. 00:01:13.766 --> 00:01:19.166 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% So first the WCAG-EM Report Tool. 00:01:19.233 --> 00:01:23.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% So it used to be the -- does everybody see this? 00:01:26.166 --> 00:01:28.400 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Yeah, we see your screen, Eric. 00:01:28.466 --> 00:01:29.700 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:43% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Okay. Good. 00:01:29.766 --> 00:01:33.766 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% So it used to be this left thing here, which is if you 00:01:33.833 --> 00:01:37.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% still go to the website, you will still see this one. 00:01:37.099 --> 00:01:40.299 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% And in the meantime, we've been working on this one, 00:01:40.366 --> 00:01:41.466 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:53% the one on the right. 00:01:41.533 --> 00:01:43.099 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:70% So it's the updated version. 00:01:43.166 --> 00:01:49.233 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% And to get an overview, it can be found at w3.org/WAI -- 00:01:49.299 --> 00:01:55.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% W-A-I -- /eval/reports -- how do you call that small line 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:59.000 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:55% tool -- forward slash. 00:01:59.066 --> 00:02:05.599 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% And what we did is we follow the procedure to evaluate 00:02:05.666 --> 00:02:08.233 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:38% websites in the reporting tool. 00:02:08.300 --> 00:02:11.866 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% It helps you generate a report according to WCAG-EM. 00:02:11.933 --> 00:02:14.199 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:43% It supports and links to relevant 00:02:14.266 --> 00:02:16.266 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:55% information and tools. 00:02:16.333 --> 00:02:18.933 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% It aligns with the WCAG conformant claims. 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:22.199 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% And it supports WCAG 2.0 and WCAG 2.1. 00:02:22.266 --> 00:02:27.199 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:75% It doesn't support WCAG 3 yet. 00:02:27.266 --> 00:02:30.566 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% And it can also show the difference between the two. 00:02:30.633 --> 00:02:34.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% So if you had a previous one in WCAG -- a previous 00:02:34.066 --> 00:02:41.599 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% evaluation in WCAG 2.0, you can just add -- just only show 00:02:41.666 --> 00:02:44.866 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:75% the WCAG 2.1 success criteria. 00:02:44.933 --> 00:02:47.900 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% It is a manual tool, so it doesn't do any automated 00:02:47.966 --> 00:02:51.666 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% checks by itself, but it does have the possibility, the new 00:02:51.733 --> 00:02:54.466 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:45% version, to import automated checks. 00:02:54.533 --> 00:03:00.866 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% So if you use Axe or Alfa by Siteimprove, you can import 00:03:00.933 --> 00:03:05.733 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% the results as long as they comply with the JSON 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:07.833 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:60% standard for the import. 00:03:07.900 --> 00:03:10.566 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% It has the possibility to open and save input, so you can 00:03:10.633 --> 00:03:11.566 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:43% exchange results. 00:03:11.633 --> 00:03:14.599 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% So at the end of an evaluation, you can sort of 00:03:14.666 --> 00:03:18.599 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% save your evaluation, send it to a friend, and the friend 00:03:18.666 --> 00:03:21.699 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% can import the evaluation and continue with it or check it 00:03:21.766 --> 00:03:26.599 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% and send it back to you or -- well, in this way you can work 00:03:26.666 --> 00:03:31.866 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% with multiple people on an evaluation as long as you 00:03:31.933 --> 00:03:34.766 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:43% don't work on it at the same time. 00:03:34.833 --> 00:03:37.300 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% It supports and links to relevant information tools. 00:03:37.366 --> 00:03:39.099 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:55% I think I said that in the previous slide. 00:03:39.166 --> 00:03:41.633 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:75% It's an easy translation file. 00:03:41.699 --> 00:03:46.733 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% So it used to be rather complex to translate, but now 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:50.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:55% it's -- it has an easy translation file, so 00:03:50.500 --> 00:03:51.599 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% that makes it easy. 00:03:51.666 --> 00:03:52.800 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:63% There is an English file. 00:03:52.866 --> 00:03:55.833 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% If you translate everything that is in English to your 00:03:55.900 --> 00:03:59.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% language, you will have your own language file or your own 00:03:59.099 --> 00:04:02.533 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:48% language version of the reporting tool. 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:05.699 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% It has changed the new WAI design and framework, and it 00:04:05.766 --> 00:04:08.166 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% has the possibility of importing data from tools 00:04:08.233 --> 00:04:11.199 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:55% using the EARL format. 00:04:11.266 --> 00:04:17.899 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:45% So now let's shift to the live demo. 00:04:17.966 --> 00:04:20.733 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:55% It should be this one. 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:21.766 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:13% Yeah. 00:04:21.833 --> 00:04:23.899 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% So this is the live demo of the tool that is currently 00:04:23.966 --> 00:04:27.166 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:40% still on GitHub. 00:04:27.233 --> 00:04:30.699 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% And we are working on it, so you will see that you have the 00:04:30.766 --> 00:04:32.566 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:58% same walk-through here. 00:04:32.633 --> 00:04:36.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% So the Overview, Scope, Explore, Sample, Audit, 00:04:36.500 --> 00:04:40.266 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% Summary, and View Report are the menu items. 00:04:40.333 --> 00:04:43.266 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:48% And it explains you how the tool works. 00:04:43.333 --> 00:04:45.633 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:68% It gives tips for using it. 00:04:45.699 --> 00:04:49.699 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% If you go to it, at the right there's sort of a menu bar. 00:04:49.766 --> 00:04:53.566 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% You can view the reports, start a new evaluation, open 00:04:53.633 --> 00:04:57.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% an evaluation from a JSON file, or import data from 00:04:57.066 --> 00:05:01.366 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:68% automated evaluation tools. 00:05:01.433 --> 00:05:05.199 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% So to start a new evaluation, you just click the button, and 00:05:05.266 --> 00:05:07.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:45% then you go to the first page, Scope. 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:10.266 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% Well, here you can -- this is not really different from the 00:05:10.333 --> 00:05:16.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% previous version, only that it also has a WCAG 2.1 and it 00:05:16.100 --> 00:05:19.399 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% works a bit better. 00:05:19.466 --> 00:05:23.766 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% It has all the parts that were in the previous tools except, 00:05:23.833 --> 00:05:26.166 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:48% of course, the nice part is this one. 00:05:26.233 --> 00:05:28.399 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:55% I should show you the translation file here. 00:05:28.466 --> 00:05:30.699 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:73% So I should push Netherlands. 00:05:30.766 --> 00:05:34.366 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% You'll get the Netherlands version of the tool, which is, 00:05:34.433 --> 00:05:36.833 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:43% of course, great. 00:05:36.899 --> 00:05:39.899 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% If you want your language there, you just translate the 00:05:39.966 --> 00:05:45.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% file, and ask somebody at W3C to put it in the right folder. 00:05:45.066 --> 00:05:49.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% And then all of a sudden, you will have your own language 00:05:49.500 --> 00:05:54.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% web accessibility evaluation report tool generator. 00:05:54.066 --> 00:05:57.600 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:43% Here, the sample. 00:05:57.666 --> 00:06:01.633 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% You can audit the selected sample, which is, like, here 00:06:01.699 --> 00:06:04.500 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:43% with perceivable. 00:06:04.566 --> 00:06:09.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% You can sort of declare something as passed, failed, 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:13.966 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% cannot tell, not present, or not checked, et cetera, for 00:06:14.033 --> 00:06:17.233 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:53% all the guidelines and success criteria. 00:06:17.300 --> 00:06:21.399 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% You can add information for a summary, like the name of the 00:06:21.466 --> 00:06:24.800 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% evaluator, the evaluation commissioner, the date, 00:06:24.866 --> 00:06:27.266 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:45% executive summary. 00:06:27.333 --> 00:06:30.399 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% And then, finally, you can sort of view the report. 00:06:30.466 --> 00:06:32.100 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:70% Multiple buttons to do that. 00:06:32.166 --> 00:06:34.833 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% And it will generate the complete report with all the 00:06:34.899 --> 00:06:38.600 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% things that you just input in the previous pages. 00:06:38.666 --> 00:06:40.600 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% And on this page is the interesting button. 00:06:40.666 --> 00:06:44.100 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% Save the evaluation data as a JSON file. 00:06:44.166 --> 00:06:49.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% So if you click it, you'll see here at the bottom it saves 00:06:49.066 --> 00:06:51.433 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% an evaluation.json. 00:06:51.500 --> 00:06:53.966 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% And if you go to the first page, you can then open the 00:06:54.033 --> 00:06:56.133 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:53% evaluation from JSON. 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:58.766 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% I won't do that here because you'll see all the documents 00:06:58.833 --> 00:07:03.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:48% on my computer, but trust me, it works. 00:07:03.066 --> 00:07:05.366 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% That's the website accessibility report 00:07:05.433 --> 00:07:09.566 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:38% generator live. 00:07:09.633 --> 00:07:14.233 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:45% But, once again, great translation. 00:07:14.300 --> 00:07:15.566 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: So you just changed from 00:07:15.633 --> 00:07:16.633 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:43% English to Dutch. 00:07:16.699 --> 00:07:18.699 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:40% Thank you, Eric. 00:07:18.766 --> 00:07:23.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% So there are already a couple of questions and just some 00:07:23.100 --> 00:07:27.699 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:75% additional visual description. 00:07:27.766 --> 00:07:30.533 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:55% So this is not the final design of how it 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:32.399 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:38% will look like. 00:07:32.466 --> 00:07:37.366 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% It's the kind of tool Eric had read out the URL. 00:07:37.433 --> 00:07:41.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% And you can find that URL also from the project page and from 00:07:41.500 --> 00:07:44.500 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:70% the agenda, the report tool. 00:07:44.566 --> 00:07:48.800 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% We're updating it primarily to support translations more 00:07:48.866 --> 00:07:53.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% easily, but also to put it in the new WAI style. 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:56.300 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% Many things here is not going to be the final way it looks. 00:07:56.366 --> 00:07:58.933 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:75% It's still a work in progress. 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:07.633 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:53% And so, yeah -- yeah. 00:08:07.699 --> 00:08:14.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% There's several questions, Eric, that -- if you can stop 00:08:14.100 --> 00:08:16.733 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:53% moving around because it's distracting me. 00:08:18.033 --> 00:08:20.800 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:60% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Sorry. 00:08:20.866 --> 00:08:23.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Moving content is distracting. 00:08:23.066 --> 00:08:24.533 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:70% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Oh, sorry. 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:25.466 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:68% >> SHADI ABOUT-ZAHRA: Yeah. 00:08:25.533 --> 00:08:28.300 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% So can you clarify the difference between open and 00:08:28.366 --> 00:08:29.899 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:38% importing data? 00:08:29.966 --> 00:08:36.299 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Yeah. So open is to open a file. 00:08:36.366 --> 00:08:40.299 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% So I just showed you at the end of the evaluation you can 00:08:40.366 --> 00:08:48.299 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% save your evaluation report in the form of a JSON file. 00:08:48.366 --> 00:08:50.466 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:53% And somebody else can open your report. 00:08:50.533 --> 00:08:54.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:45% So an import, that is to import data 00:08:54.066 --> 00:08:55.233 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:53% from automated tools. 00:08:55.299 --> 00:08:58.533 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:65% So like Axe, for instance. 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:05.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% So you can use a tool to evaluate a website, and then 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:10.399 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% the evaluation results can be imported into the 00:09:10.466 --> 00:09:13.566 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:50% WCAG-EM Report Tool. 00:09:13.633 --> 00:09:18.066 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% The small angle there is that the only thing that will be 00:09:18.133 --> 00:09:24.100 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% imported currently are the URLs that are in the sample. 00:09:24.166 --> 00:09:27.100 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% So it will choose from all the URLs that you have checked 00:09:27.166 --> 00:09:28.333 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:63% with the automated tools. 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:32.466 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% It will only use the results of the pages that are in your 00:09:32.533 --> 00:09:36.899 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:53% sample at the moment. 00:09:36.966 --> 00:09:38.266 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:53% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Excellent. Thank you. 00:09:38.333 --> 00:09:42.466 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% And then some more technical questions regarding the 00:09:42.533 --> 00:09:45.166 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:40% underlying data. 00:09:45.233 --> 00:09:46.433 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:55% Somebody is concerned. 00:09:46.500 --> 00:09:50.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% The underlying JSON data, will it stay the same 00:09:50.066 --> 00:09:52.066 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% in the new version? 00:09:53.066 --> 00:09:55.299 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Yeah, as far as I know. 00:09:55.366 --> 00:09:57.399 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:43% You know, I'm not sure about that. 00:09:57.466 --> 00:10:00.666 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% So you mean if you have JSON data from the previous tool? 00:10:00.733 --> 00:10:02.399 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Yeah. No. 00:10:02.466 --> 00:10:06.899 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% The reports you have so far will stay valid. 00:10:06.966 --> 00:10:10.500 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% So, yeah, so the functionality, the importing 00:10:10.566 --> 00:10:14.899 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% and the opening and closing will be the same, and the JSON 00:10:14.966 --> 00:10:18.866 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:73% format will remain unchanged. 00:10:18.933 --> 00:10:20.333 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:13% Okay. 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:25.366 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% Another question that came also in the -- similar 00:10:25.433 --> 00:10:28.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:43% question was on the registration. 00:10:28.500 --> 00:10:33.799 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% Can you export -- so we can now export an HTML and in JSON 00:10:33.866 --> 00:10:36.700 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:70% format for machine readable. 00:10:36.766 --> 00:10:39.933 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% Are there other formats, for example, pdf or Word or 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:42.000 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% Excel or something? 00:10:44.333 --> 00:10:45.566 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:63% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: No. No. 00:10:45.633 --> 00:10:47.766 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:48% Just HTML as far as I know and JSON. 00:10:47.833 --> 00:10:48.966 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:68% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Right. 00:10:49.033 --> 00:10:52.733 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% We do have GitHub where you can put wish list requirements 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:53.966 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:58% or you can open issues. 00:10:54.033 --> 00:10:59.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% Also, if you find bugs, please do report these, and we will 00:10:59.066 --> 00:11:03.533 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% -- yeah, we will see what we can do in the future. 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:08.200 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% But right now, yeah, we do not export to other formats. 00:11:08.266 --> 00:11:10.833 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% There was a question: Can you show an example of importing 00:11:10.899 --> 00:11:12.600 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% an Axe EARL report? 00:11:12.666 --> 00:11:14.600 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% So this was about reporting from -- importing from 00:11:14.666 --> 00:11:17.933 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:40% automated tools. 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:25.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% So on -- I think you said you don't want to show the 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:28.966 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% files on your computer, which is fair enough. 00:11:29.033 --> 00:11:34.899 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% I think the best we can do is there's -- the EARL GitHub -- 00:11:34.966 --> 00:11:38.733 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% and I'll give the URL later to the EARL GitHub. 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:41.766 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% I think it should be linked from the WAI-Tools Project 00:11:41.833 --> 00:11:46.633 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% page as well, and there -- there should be some sample 00:11:46.700 --> 00:11:51.733 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:55% reports there that you can use from there. 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:53.366 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:13% Okay. 00:11:53.433 --> 00:11:56.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:55% Eric, does the report generator evaluate web 00:11:56.066 --> 00:11:58.066 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:38% or mobile apps? 00:11:58.966 --> 00:12:00.366 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:55% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Web. 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.833 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: And it's WCAG, so it's independent. 00:12:06.899 --> 00:12:09.866 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% So, actually, the important thing is this is not an 00:12:09.933 --> 00:12:14.466 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% automated tool, so it actually uses all the criteria, so you 00:12:14.533 --> 00:12:20.866 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% can use it just as well to create reports for the apps. 00:12:20.933 --> 00:12:22.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: At Accessibility Foundation, we 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:27.733 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:43% use the same tool to evaluate apps. 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:29.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Right. Good. 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:30.200 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:33% Good to hear. 00:12:30.266 --> 00:12:32.266 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% Wow, there's a whole bunch of questions coming in. 00:12:32.333 --> 00:12:35.233 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% We want to move on. 00:12:35.299 --> 00:12:39.466 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:53% When this new version will be released? 00:12:39.533 --> 00:12:41.633 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:75% That's a really good question. 00:12:41.700 --> 00:12:43.033 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:13% Yeah. 00:12:43.100 --> 00:12:45.533 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:48% We hope in the coming week or two. 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:47.200 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:45% So please hang on. 00:12:47.266 --> 00:12:49.700 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:53% We'll let you know as quickly as possible. 00:12:49.766 --> 00:12:51.966 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% At the end of the presentation today, at the end of the 00:12:52.033 --> 00:12:54.633 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% session, I'll be giving you information on how you can 00:12:54.700 --> 00:12:59.500 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% receive updates, how you can be notified, and so we'll let 00:12:59.566 --> 00:13:03.466 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% you know as soon as the new version is available. 00:13:03.533 --> 00:13:06.600 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% Another question: Austria and Spain uses the tool from 00:13:06.666 --> 00:13:08.966 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:43% monitoring bodies and make changes. 00:13:09.033 --> 00:13:11.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% Is there any exchange between your organizations? 00:13:11.500 --> 00:13:19.100 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% So, yes, we did actually ask for inputs through GitHub. 00:13:19.166 --> 00:13:24.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% And I believe we got comments from Austria, I believe, maybe 00:13:24.500 --> 00:13:26.366 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:68% directly, maybe indirectly. 00:13:26.433 --> 00:13:31.633 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% And so, yeah, we developed this, you know, openly. 00:13:31.700 --> 00:13:35.799 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% Of course, we always love more input so that we can consider 00:13:35.866 --> 00:13:38.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:48% any requirements in future versions. 00:13:40.433 --> 00:13:43.000 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:55% Then another question. 00:13:43.066 --> 00:13:46.366 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% Would it be easy to add non-WCAG criteria to the 00:13:46.433 --> 00:13:47.600 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:43% report generator? 00:13:47.666 --> 00:13:51.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% For example, other clauses from the EN, from the European 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:56.666 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:65% standard of the directive. 00:13:56.733 --> 00:13:58.899 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Well, I mean, if you have a programmer 00:13:58.966 --> 00:14:01.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% then I think it would be easy maybe. 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.866 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:43% But it's -- yeah. 00:14:03.933 --> 00:14:04.899 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: It's open source. 00:14:04.966 --> 00:14:08.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% So, yeah, you would be -- yeah. It's -- 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:09.933 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:80% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: All on GitHub. 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:11.566 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Not out of the box, but you should be 00:14:11.633 --> 00:14:17.133 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:65% able to adapt the -- okay. 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:19.299 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% And then last question before we move to your next 00:14:19.366 --> 00:14:20.700 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% presentation, Eric. 00:14:20.766 --> 00:14:23.700 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% We often have multiple analysts working on evaluating 00:14:23.766 --> 00:14:25.066 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:60% a site at the same time. 00:14:25.133 --> 00:14:28.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% Is there any way to break out of a page for evaluation and 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.700 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% upload these results back to the main evaluation so they 00:14:31.766 --> 00:14:35.600 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% could work in tandem so that somebody -- I understand the 00:14:35.666 --> 00:14:38.299 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% question that somebody evaluates part and then the 00:14:38.366 --> 00:14:39.933 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:53% other evaluates other parts and then we can 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:42.733 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:50% combine the reports. 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:47.066 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: No, not if do you that simultaneously. 00:14:47.133 --> 00:14:51.600 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% So if somebody stops evaluating and another takes 00:14:51.666 --> 00:14:55.600 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% up, then you can send each other the JSON file, and the 00:14:55.666 --> 00:14:57.333 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:58% other one can continue. 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:01.966 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% But if you -- as far as I know, if you both do the 00:15:02.033 --> 00:15:05.100 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:40% evaluation, you import the file. 00:15:05.166 --> 00:15:08.766 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:45% I'm not quite sure what happens then. 00:15:08.833 --> 00:15:11.700 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:43% So could be that it is added. 00:15:11.766 --> 00:15:13.433 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:10% Hmm. 00:15:13.500 --> 00:15:17.100 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% I'll put it on the list of things to check. 00:15:17.166 --> 00:15:19.666 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Right. Yeah. 00:15:19.733 --> 00:15:22.500 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% And then information in Germany, we also use the tool 00:15:22.566 --> 00:15:25.833 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:53% and make changes, but we're still at work. 00:15:25.899 --> 00:15:30.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% So, obviously, using that and making changes to it, yeah, 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:33.166 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% welcome to -- we also welcome translations -- 00:15:33.233 --> 00:15:35.033 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:55% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Yep. 00:15:35.100 --> 00:15:37.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: -- for all resources that 00:15:37.066 --> 00:15:38.466 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:50% you've talked about. 00:15:38.533 --> 00:15:40.633 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% There were some questions on translations that I'll come 00:15:40.700 --> 00:15:43.933 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:43% back to later again in the Q&A. 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:45.533 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:13% Yeah. 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:53.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% So -- oh, and somebody -- at the moment we add 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:55.733 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% an Excel converter. 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:58.966 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% So that's nice to hear that there's something like that. 00:15:59.033 --> 00:16:01.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% Again, this is an open-source project, so you're always 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:06.100 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% welcome to contribute things back into GitHub if 00:16:06.166 --> 00:16:07.133 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:35% you wanted to. 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:11.533 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% There are several issues in GitHub of people asking to 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:15.966 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% have, for example, this collaborative so that multiple 00:16:16.033 --> 00:16:17.733 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:43% people can edit at the same time. 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:20.733 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% We know that this is a feature request, but that's actually 00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:23.366 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:68% quite a project on its own. 00:16:23.433 --> 00:16:28.266 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% For now we started really with just this import to allow when 00:16:28.333 --> 00:16:35.600 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% you select a sample of pages from your site and you have 00:16:35.666 --> 00:16:39.799 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% automated results, you can fill in what the tool knows, 00:16:39.866 --> 00:16:42.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% but you still need to continue doing the manual 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:43.966 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:45% part of your work. 00:16:44.033 --> 00:16:49.166 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% But it helps combine automated and manual testing. 00:16:49.233 --> 00:16:50.233 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:13% Okay. 00:16:50.299 --> 00:16:52.399 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% We're a bit behind schedule, Eric, so please go 00:16:52.466 --> 00:16:57.100 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% ahead and continue. 00:16:57.166 --> 00:16:58.633 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:58% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Okay. 00:16:58.700 --> 00:17:02.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:45% Let me get my presentation back. 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:05.933 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:33% Get you back. 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:07.700 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:33% Share screen. 00:17:11.666 --> 00:17:15.866 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:40% So there we are. 00:17:15.933 --> 00:17:17.599 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:73% The accessibility statements. 00:17:17.666 --> 00:17:22.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% Well, this is a shorter story because we did a lot more work 00:17:22.099 --> 00:17:27.700 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% on the evaluation tool, and not just adding translation -- 00:17:27.766 --> 00:17:30.099 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% the possibility of easy translation there, but also 00:17:30.166 --> 00:17:35.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% adding a lot of functionality like the imports and like the 00:17:35.500 --> 00:17:38.500 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% saving and opening files and to be able 00:17:38.566 --> 00:17:41.200 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:53% to share evaluations. 00:17:41.266 --> 00:17:44.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% So for the accessibility statements generator, it is 00:17:44.500 --> 00:17:48.666 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% still the version that you can see live on the W3 website. 00:17:48.733 --> 00:17:51.900 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% If you search for statements generator on W3, you'll 00:17:51.966 --> 00:17:53.500 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:50% find it immediately. 00:17:53.566 --> 00:18:00.366 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% It's at W3.org/WAI -- W-A-I -- /planning/statements 00:18:00.433 --> 00:18:04.233 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:25% and slash. 00:18:04.299 --> 00:18:07.466 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% And there's a page there to generate an accessibility 00:18:07.533 --> 00:18:12.200 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% statement with a lot of information on the Preview 00:18:12.266 --> 00:18:15.233 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% button, but you still have to fill in everything by hand. 00:18:15.299 --> 00:18:19.866 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% So what the generator does is it guides you on providing 00:18:19.933 --> 00:18:21.900 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:63% accessibility statements. 00:18:21.966 --> 00:18:25.066 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% It is aligned with the EU Web Accessibility Directive and 00:18:25.133 --> 00:18:27.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:48% with WCAG 2 Conformance Claims. 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:30.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% It is a manual generator, so this one does not do 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:32.366 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:53% any automatic checks. 00:18:32.433 --> 00:18:37.633 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% But you could link to the evaluation reports or to a 00:18:37.700 --> 00:18:42.766 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% JSON file, but you output it from the previous tool. 00:18:42.833 --> 00:18:44.633 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% The output is available in both human and 00:18:44.700 --> 00:18:46.200 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:63% machine-readable formats. 00:18:46.266 --> 00:18:49.466 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% The tool includes examples of statements, guidance, how to 00:18:49.533 --> 00:18:51.200 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:75% make accessibility statements. 00:18:51.266 --> 00:18:53.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:55% Most people are, like, what is important for 00:18:53.099 --> 00:18:54.966 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:63% people with disabilities? 00:18:55.033 --> 00:18:57.233 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% What would they like to see in a statement like that? 00:18:57.299 --> 00:18:59.933 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:40% And a statements generator tool. 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:02.900 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% It includes input from communities and experts, and 00:19:02.966 --> 00:19:07.599 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% it is almost ready for translation to your language 00:19:07.666 --> 00:19:12.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% because we're still working the last bits of that. 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:17.166 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% So, also, in, like, a week or two, this should be done. 00:19:17.233 --> 00:19:20.500 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% And then you could just take one file, translate everything 00:19:20.566 --> 00:19:25.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% in that file, and you would immediately have your language 00:19:25.500 --> 00:19:28.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% version of the accessibility statements generator. 00:19:28.500 --> 00:19:31.866 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% The only thing that has to be done is that somebody at W3C 00:19:31.933 --> 00:19:37.833 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% will then have to put the translated file into a folder. 00:19:37.900 --> 00:19:40.266 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% So why would you provide an accessibility statement? 00:19:40.333 --> 00:19:45.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% Well, that is to show users that you care about them and 00:19:45.500 --> 00:19:48.166 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% about accessibility, to provide them with valuable 00:19:48.233 --> 00:19:53.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% help, for CSR reasons, or it may be a requirement, like in 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:57.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% Europe for the Directive, for public sector bodies. 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:00.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:43% And what does the tool then do? 00:20:00.099 --> 00:20:04.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% Well, the tool asks you the questions you need to answer. 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:07.766 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% So it asks you basic information, your efforts, 00:20:07.833 --> 00:20:11.933 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% technical information about the accessibility, and 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:14.866 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% regarding the approval and complaints process. 00:20:14.933 --> 00:20:16.933 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% It helps create an accessibility statement that 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:20.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% can be further customized and branded, et cetera. 00:20:20.066 --> 00:20:25.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% So you can just save the end result and make your very much 00:20:25.500 --> 00:20:28.700 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:55% most -- more beautiful version out of it. 00:20:28.766 --> 00:20:31.299 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% It helps make accessibility statements conformant with 00:20:31.366 --> 00:20:33.066 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:43% the EU Directive. 00:20:33.133 --> 00:20:35.799 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% And the output is not for lawyers, but for users 00:20:35.866 --> 00:20:38.033 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:40% of your content. 00:20:38.099 --> 00:20:41.500 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% So make sure they understand so they know what to do. 00:20:41.566 --> 00:20:43.566 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% That was the idea behind the accessibility 00:20:43.633 --> 00:20:45.533 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:50% statement generator. 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:47.566 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% And the future work is the translations. 00:20:47.633 --> 00:20:49.933 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:60% We're working on it now. 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:53.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% And we also looked into the possibility to add 00:20:53.099 --> 00:20:55.700 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% your own questions. 00:20:55.766 --> 00:20:57.333 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:68% That was one of the issues. 00:20:57.400 --> 00:20:59.633 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% So if you go to the GitHub page, you'll find a lot of 00:20:59.700 --> 00:21:02.466 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:45% proposals there for changes to the 00:21:02.533 --> 00:21:04.166 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% accessibility statements generator. 00:21:04.233 --> 00:21:06.033 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:53% We had to prioritize. 00:21:06.099 --> 00:21:10.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% So besides a few other things, the most important thing was 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:12.000 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:43% the translations. 00:21:12.066 --> 00:21:14.066 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:65% But all the code is there. 00:21:14.133 --> 00:21:17.533 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% So, also, in this case you could take the complete code 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:19.066 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:68% and add your own questions. 00:21:19.133 --> 00:21:21.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% And I think in the case of the accessibility statements 00:21:21.066 --> 00:21:25.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:78% generator, that would really be a fairly simple thing to do. 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:28.099 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% I think even if you're not really extremely technical 00:21:28.166 --> 00:21:31.400 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:68% you could probably do that. 00:21:31.466 --> 00:21:32.700 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:13% Okay. 00:21:32.766 --> 00:21:34.900 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:55% Now for the live demo. 00:21:34.966 --> 00:21:37.233 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:38% Let me go here. 00:21:37.299 --> 00:21:41.733 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% So this is the live page on the W3 website. 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:48.366 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:78% And it's at W3.org/WAI/planning/statements. 00:21:48.433 --> 00:21:53.200 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% And then if you go to /generator and then slash -- 00:21:53.266 --> 00:21:57.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% well, then you will get to this create page, where it 00:21:57.400 --> 00:22:00.366 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% asks you basic information like the name of your 00:22:00.433 --> 00:22:04.599 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% organization, which could be like this, and then a 00:22:04.666 --> 00:22:08.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% telephone number or address of your website. 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:10.066 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:63% That's not a correct one. 00:22:10.133 --> 00:22:13.166 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% Over here the standards applied, the conformance 00:22:13.233 --> 00:22:16.799 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:55% status, the additional considerations. 00:22:18.700 --> 00:22:21.933 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:55% Don't send them to me. 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:22.966 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:25% Et cetera. 00:22:23.033 --> 00:22:27.766 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% So there's the efforts you did, like organizational 00:22:27.833 --> 00:22:30.900 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% measures you took or any other measures, you can 00:22:30.966 --> 00:22:33.133 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:35% add them here. 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:39.599 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% Technical information like the accessibility limitations, 00:22:39.666 --> 00:22:42.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% compatibility with user environment, et cetera. 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:45.933 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% So it's all -- this is all described in detail. 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:52.233 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% If you show info here, below every header or form fields, 00:22:52.299 --> 00:22:54.900 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% there is -- or above every form field, there is more 00:22:54.966 --> 00:22:59.666 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% information about what you could fill in there. 00:22:59.733 --> 00:23:02.099 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:40% The technologies used, et cetera. 00:23:02.166 --> 00:23:05.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% Then somewhere at the bottom you can preview your 00:23:05.066 --> 00:23:07.400 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% accessibility statement, and it takes you to your 00:23:07.466 --> 00:23:10.400 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:60% accessibility statement. 00:23:10.466 --> 00:23:12.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:48% So I haven't filled in anything, so now 00:23:12.099 --> 00:23:14.299 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:45% it's website name. 00:23:14.366 --> 00:23:20.533 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:53% But if I would go back, let's see here. 00:23:20.599 --> 00:23:24.166 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:48% I will put at least a name in here. 00:23:24.233 --> 00:23:26.733 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:43% Oh, I did put the name in here. 00:23:32.033 --> 00:23:34.000 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:60% Terrible things of life. 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:38.599 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:13% Okay. 00:23:38.666 --> 00:23:40.633 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:43% Well, here it is. 00:23:40.700 --> 00:23:43.066 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:43% So I probably forgot something. 00:23:43.133 --> 00:23:44.900 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% It does the description of the name. 00:23:44.966 --> 00:23:48.766 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:65% So it's a few forms later. 00:23:48.833 --> 00:23:52.500 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% So it will generate -- everything that you fill out 00:23:52.566 --> 00:23:55.366 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:73% will be appearing below here. 00:23:55.433 --> 00:23:57.966 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% So that is why it is currently very short, but the more 00:23:58.033 --> 00:24:00.799 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% information you input, the more information you get in 00:24:00.866 --> 00:24:04.466 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:73% this accessibility statement. 00:24:04.533 --> 00:24:07.599 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:25% That's it. 00:24:07.666 --> 00:24:10.266 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% And then above here -- of course, before I say that's 00:24:10.333 --> 00:24:12.766 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% it, I should have said somewhere here above you will 00:24:12.833 --> 00:24:17.366 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% soon see this translation button where you can get the 00:24:17.433 --> 00:24:21.666 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% file, translate it to your language, and then see your 00:24:21.733 --> 00:24:25.466 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% own language version of this accessibility statement. 00:24:25.533 --> 00:24:29.566 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:13% Yeah. 00:24:29.633 --> 00:24:31.566 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Thank you, Eric. 00:24:31.633 --> 00:24:32.466 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:13% Yeah. 00:24:32.533 --> 00:24:33.799 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:43% So right on time. 00:24:33.866 --> 00:24:36.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% We have a couple of questions that I think are a little bit 00:24:36.099 --> 00:24:39.233 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% beyond the scope of this project, but they're really 00:24:39.299 --> 00:24:40.400 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:38% good questions. 00:24:40.466 --> 00:24:43.866 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% So one question is: I've seen public sector websites 00:24:43.933 --> 00:24:47.366 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% publishing accessibility statements only to conform 00:24:47.433 --> 00:24:49.200 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:43% with regulations. 00:24:49.266 --> 00:24:52.533 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% In those statements they say that some parts 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:54.733 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:48% are not accessible. 00:24:54.799 --> 00:24:57.266 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% What's the use of having such statements? 00:24:57.333 --> 00:24:58.933 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:53% So, yeah, that's a really good question. 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:03.500 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% And this is one of the reasons why, you know, in addition to 00:25:03.566 --> 00:25:08.466 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% the generator, we have guidance, including examples 00:25:08.533 --> 00:25:12.233 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% of accessibility statements, to really try to 00:25:12.299 --> 00:25:14.166 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:55% promote good practice. 00:25:14.233 --> 00:25:18.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% But, yeah, this issue, I guess, of what people do or 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:21.833 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:53% don't is a little bit beyond our scope. 00:25:21.900 --> 00:25:25.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:65% Another question that also Jorge might be interested 00:25:25.500 --> 00:25:26.666 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:30% to weigh in. 00:25:26.733 --> 00:25:30.200 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% It was saying: I was interested to learn that in 00:25:30.266 --> 00:25:33.700 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% Portugal there's a proposed standard URL pass for 00:25:33.766 --> 00:25:36.333 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:63% accessibility statements. 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:40.133 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% So on a public website if you write "acessibilidade" in the 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:44.766 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% URL, you should get the accessibility statement. 00:25:44.833 --> 00:25:48.400 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% Are there more countries with such standard locations? 00:25:48.466 --> 00:25:52.966 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% Eric, first, are you aware of other countries that have a 00:25:53.033 --> 00:25:54.433 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:43% similar practice? 00:25:54.500 --> 00:25:57.066 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Yeah. I know that the Netherlands has a 00:25:57.133 --> 00:25:59.166 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% standard location where you can find all the 00:25:59.233 --> 00:26:00.666 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:63% accessibility statements. 00:26:00.733 --> 00:26:04.599 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:78% That is at the toegankelijkheidsverklaring.nl. 00:26:04.666 --> 00:26:08.900 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:55% And you can find enough of you of 2,500 00:26:08.966 --> 00:26:12.966 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:70% toegankelijkheidsverklaring. 00:26:13.033 --> 00:26:15.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% And that is also the place -- sometimes they're not even on 00:26:15.500 --> 00:26:18.166 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% the website or you can't find them on the website of the 00:26:18.233 --> 00:26:22.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% public sector body, but you can find them on this website 00:26:22.099 --> 00:26:27.200 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:53% that is hosted by the central government. 00:26:27.266 --> 00:26:34.633 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Jorge, any other thoughts on this? 00:26:34.700 --> 00:26:36.866 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% >> JORGE FERNANDES: Well, I don't know other countries 00:26:36.933 --> 00:26:43.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:48% where they use also the standard URL. 00:26:43.066 --> 00:26:47.866 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:55% But, yes, in Portugal we are using this one. 00:26:47.933 --> 00:26:52.700 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% For example, I know that in Italy they centralized the 00:26:52.766 --> 00:26:58.766 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% accessibility statement in a website, and you make a 00:26:58.833 --> 00:27:02.400 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:53% link to that website. 00:27:02.466 --> 00:27:07.799 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% The accessibility statement is not on the website of the -- 00:27:07.866 --> 00:27:14.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% of the public sector bodies, so it is outside, centralized 00:27:14.099 --> 00:27:23.400 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% in a server managed by the national authority. 00:27:23.466 --> 00:27:29.500 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% But I don't know other -- or other examples. 00:27:29.566 --> 00:27:30.700 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Thank you. Yeah. 00:27:30.766 --> 00:27:33.000 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:55% And that goes directly to the next question. 00:27:33.066 --> 00:27:36.866 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% Do all countries adopt this statement generator, knowing 00:27:36.933 --> 00:27:40.733 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% that some countries in the EU have additional requirements, 00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:43.299 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:48% for example, France and Netherlands? 00:27:43.366 --> 00:27:46.366 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:48% The latter also has its own generator. 00:27:46.433 --> 00:27:49.966 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% And then there is the Dutch name, which I cannot read. 00:27:50.033 --> 00:27:53.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:78% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Toegankelijkheidsverklaring.nl. 00:27:53.099 --> 00:27:56.966 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Yeah, be nice to the captioner, Eric. 00:27:57.033 --> 00:27:58.866 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:48% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Oh, that's trouble. 00:27:58.933 --> 00:27:59.799 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Having a match. 00:27:59.866 --> 00:28:02.166 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:60% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Woops. 00:28:02.233 --> 00:28:03.400 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:65% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Okay. 00:28:03.466 --> 00:28:06.366 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:53% So we do not -- yeah. 00:28:06.433 --> 00:28:11.700 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% We provide this accessibility statement generator as an 00:28:11.766 --> 00:28:15.866 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% example as the minimum requirements in the Directive. 00:28:15.933 --> 00:28:18.366 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% Also something internationally -- this is not only for 00:28:18.433 --> 00:28:20.400 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% Europe, but providing accessibility statements as a 00:28:20.466 --> 00:28:23.200 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:75% best practice internationally. 00:28:23.266 --> 00:28:28.233 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% And the expectation is whoever wants can take it, adapt it. 00:28:28.299 --> 00:28:31.099 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% So this is why Eric mentioned that you can actually add 00:28:31.166 --> 00:28:36.299 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% additional questions, so we try to write the code in such 00:28:36.366 --> 00:28:42.900 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:75% a way that you can extend this basis and also translations so 00:28:42.966 --> 00:28:45.733 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:40% that you can use this separately. 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.900 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:75% So, yeah, it's a tool to help. 00:28:48.966 --> 00:28:51.333 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:50% Some have reused it, like in Portugal. 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:53.366 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:40% Others have not. 00:28:53.433 --> 00:28:55.599 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:63% And it's totally up to -- you know, to people 00:28:55.666 --> 00:28:57.500 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:53% what they do with it. 00:28:57.566 --> 00:28:59.466 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:70% We did notice -- we did learn from Portugal that the 00:28:59.533 --> 00:29:02.433 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:73% translation was not as easy, and this is why we're redoing 00:29:02.500 --> 00:29:05.033 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:73% that, to support translation. 00:29:05.099 --> 00:29:06.700 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:13% Good. 00:29:06.766 --> 00:29:14.033 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:60% And then somebody re -- put the Dutch URL again. 00:29:14.099 --> 00:29:16.833 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:58% I think somebody wants to have fun with Dutch. 00:29:16.900 --> 00:29:17.633 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:13% Good. 00:29:17.700 --> 00:29:19.166 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:65% Thank you very much, Eric. 00:29:19.233 --> 00:29:20.433 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:60% >> ERIC VELLEMAN: Sorry. 00:29:20.500 --> 00:29:23.233 align:middle line:79% position:50% size:68% >> SHADI ABOU-ZAHRA: Dutch lesson in the next webinar. 00:29:23.299 --> 00:29:26.299 align:middle line:85% position:50% size:45% Let's now move on.