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[css21] root being out-of-flow

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[css21] root being out-of-flow
fantasai   Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:21:04 +0200

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I was just looking over the definition of "out-of-flow" in CSS2.1: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/visuren.html#positioning-scheme # An element is called out of flow if it is floated, absolutely # positioned, or is the root element. The root element is, for the most part (aside from its automatic block formatting context rootness), laid out just like an in-flow element. It seems to me that it would be more confusing than not to define it as being out-of-flow. Is there a useful reason that we define the root element as out-of-flow? It seems more reasonable to me to define it as in the flow established by the initial containing block. ~fantasai
Re: [css21] root being out-of-flow
Peter Moulder   Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:16:28 +1000

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On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 06:21:04PM +0200, fantasai wrote: > Is there a useful reason that we define the root element as out-of-flow? It might be for purposes of the immediately following phrase, "the flow of A" (and related phrases such as "in the same flow"). pjrm.
Re: [css21] root being out-of-flow
"Tab Atkins Jr."   Thu, 3 Sep 2015 10:15:37 -0700

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On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Peter Moulder <pjrm@mail.internode.on.net> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 06:21:04PM +0200, fantasai wrote: >> Is there a useful reason that we define the root element as out-of-flow? > > It might be for purposes of the immediately following phrase, "the flow of A" > (and related phrases such as "in the same flow"). Yeah, it seems likely that it was done solely to make that later sentence simpler. But I agree with fantasai that it's confusing in general, and we should instead call it in-flow but amend the following phrase to talk about roots as well. ~TJ
Re: [css21] root being out-of-flow
Peter Moulder   Fri, 4 Sep 2015 08:14:39 +1000

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On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 10:15:37AM -0700, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Peter Moulder > <pjrm@mail.internode.on.net> wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 06:21:04PM +0200, fantasai wrote: > >> Is there a useful reason that we define the root element as out-of-flow? > > > > It might be for purposes of the immediately following phrase, "the flow of A" > > (and related phrases such as "in the same flow"). > > Yeah, it seems likely that it was done solely to make that later > sentence simpler. But I agree with fantasai that it's confusing in > general, and we should instead call it in-flow but amend the following > phrase to talk about roots as well. It might be helpful to introduce a term "flow root" for the existing definition that includes root. pjrm.
Re: [css21] root being out-of-flow
fantasai   Fri, 4 Sep 2015 01:21:06 -0400

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On 09/03/2015 06:14 PM, Peter Moulder wrote: > On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 10:15:37AM -0700, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Peter Moulder >> <pjrm@mail.internode.on.net> wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 06:21:04PM +0200, fantasai wrote: >>>> Is there a useful reason that we define the root element as out-of-flow? >>> >>> It might be for purposes of the immediately following phrase, "the flow of A" >>> (and related phrases such as "in the same flow"). >> >> Yeah, it seems likely that it was done solely to make that later >> sentence simpler. But I agree with fantasai that it's confusing in >> general, and we should instead call it in-flow but amend the following >> phrase to talk about roots as well. > > It might be helpful to introduce a term "flow root" for the existing > definition that includes root. We're using that elsewhere... http://www.w3.org/TR/css-display-3/#valdef-display-flow-root unless you have a better name. :D zcorpan would like us to change it. ~fantasai