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Bug 9336 - Remove concept of views as per discussion at last TPAC in the WebApps WG. At some point DOM Level 2 Views will be updated to recommend that implementors not implement the concept.
Summary: Remove concept of views as per discussion at last TPAC in the WebApps WG. At ...
Status: VERIFIED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: pre-LC1 HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson) (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: Other other
: P3 normal
Target Milestone: LC
Assignee: Ian 'Hixie' Hickson
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
URL: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/...
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Reported: 2010-03-26 12:19 UTC by contributor
Modified: 2010-12-04 12:35 UTC (History)
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Description contributor 2010-03-26 12:19:10 UTC 
Section: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#windows

Comment:
Remove concept of views as per discussion at least TPAC in the WebApps WG. At
some point DOM Level 2 Views will be updated to recommend that implementors
not implement the concept.

Posted from: 83.85.115.123 by annevk@opera.com
Comment 1 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2010-04-02 05:32:37 UTC 
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Status: Accepted
Change Description: see diff given below
Rationale: Concurred with reporter's comments.

I moved document.defaultView to HTMLDocument and window.document to Window. I also renamed the DragEvent "viewArg" argument to dummyArg and made it type "any". Really I'd like to make it type "void" and require it to be null, or maybe make it type Window, but I'll change it to match whatever UIEvent becomes when DOM Events is updated.
Comment 2 contributor 2010-04-02 05:33:03 UTC 
Checked in as WHATWG revision r4948.
Check-in comment: Drop DOM Views support.
http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=4947&to=4948
Comment 3 Doug Schepers 2010-04-05 00:45:42 UTC 
(In reply to comment #0)
> Section: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#windows
> 
> Comment:
> Remove concept of views as per discussion at least TPAC in the WebApps WG. At
> some point DOM Level 2 Views will be updated to recommend that implementors
> not implement the concept.

The WebApps WG agreed that there are no final decisions made at F2F meetings.  This should have been discussed on the email lists to make sure that there is indeed consensus about this decision, including those who could not attend TPAC.

In the summary of the TPAC meeting [1], Chaals wrote:

[[
We discussed Views in DOM, and resolved that nobody appears to use them  
anywhere real, so while we won't destroy the attributes etc we wil  
collapse them all down to a single concept of the default view in  
practice
]]

The manner in which this was resolved in the HTML5 spec doesn't seem consistent with the results of this discussion [2], either.

Note that I have no love for Views, I think we should discuss this more first.  This will likely impact how DOM3 Events is specified.

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0440.html
[2] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/02-webapps-minutes.html#item04