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    <bug>
          <bug_id>9805</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2010-05-25 21:29:37 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Help with current pattern should not use the title attribute (4.10.7.2.8)</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2010-10-04 14:49:14 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>pre-LC1 HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson)</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>All</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>WONTFIX</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>Disagree, externalComments</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Guillermo Prandi">www.w3.org</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</assigned_to>
          <cc>ian</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
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    <commentid>35832</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Guillermo Prandi">www.w3.org</who>
    <bug_when>2010-05-25 21:29:37 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Hi. I think the title attribute should not receive a special treatment to complement the pattern attribute, as in 4.10.7.2.8. Instead, a new attribute should be created with that particular meaning (e.g. &quot;patterndesc&quot;).

Admitedly the title attribute provides advisory information about the element, which may sound similar, but to me it&apos;s different. For instance, a title attribute may help understand a complex concept about the field being entered by the user, while the pattern may be an obvious, secondary matter to her, the extra aid being only useful if the user makes a mistake. Consider the following example:

&lt;label&gt; ISBN:
 &lt;input pattern=&quot;[0-9]{3}-[0-9]-[0-9]{2}-[0-9]{6}-[0-9]&quot; name=&quot;isbn&quot;
        title=&quot;The ISBN is the unique code that identifies your book and edition; look for it at your book&apos;s cover or back.&quot; patterndesc=&quot;a series of numbers and dashes, as written on the book.&quot; /&gt;
&lt;/label&gt;

Sorry if this is irrelevant or out of place.

Guille</thetext>
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    <commentid>37879</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2010-08-25 23:30:17 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
   http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

Status: Rejected
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: I don&apos;t see why we wouldn&apos;t just write the above example as:

&lt;label&gt; ISBN:
 &lt;input pattern=&quot;[0-9]{3}-[0-9]-[0-9]{2}-[0-9]{6}-[0-9]&quot; name=&quot;isbn&quot;
        title=&quot;The ISBN is the unique code that identifies your book and edition; look for it at your book&apos;s cover or back. It consists of a series of numbers and dashes.&quot;&gt;
&lt;/label&gt;</thetext>
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