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    <bug>
          <bug_id>9746</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2010-05-17 13:22:50 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>several bugs and comments on the draft from Bevi Chagnon</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2010-11-28 07:19:13 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>pre-LC1 alt techniques (editor: Steven Faulkner)</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Windows NT</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</assigned_to>
          <cc>faulkner.steve</cc>
    
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    <commentid>35721</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</who>
    <bug_when>2010-05-17 13:22:50 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>1) 11.1 is repeated twice. 
 
2) Logos.
From our own testing weve found it useful to inform readers that they are viewing a logo. In your example that just says PIP CO, a blind user would not know if its a photo of a pipco, a photo of PIP COs building, or a logo. Weve found that Logo: PIP CO works well in our studies.
 
3) Distinguishing between illustrations and photographs. 
To us who are sighted, theres a big difference between seeing a photograph of something vs. an artists illustration. For example, I have on my desk right now 2 books for identifying birds. One is Birds of North America with illustrations, the other is The Audubon Societys Field Guide to North American Birds with photos.
 
In the illustrated version, the artist can make small bird markings more visible to the reader so that 2 similar birds in a family can be easily distinguished. But in the photographed version, you see the bird in its correct color and habitat, but you might not easily see a distinguishing marking.
 
Essentially, a photo is the real deal and an illustration is an artists interpretation.
 
So it might be helpful to say: Photo: American Bald Eagle and Illustration: American Bald Eagle.</thetext>
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    <commentid>42815</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</who>
    <bug_when>2010-11-28 07:17:59 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are
satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If
you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please
reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML
Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest
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Status: partially accepted
Change Description: removed duplicate
Rationale: I&apos;m marking this &quot;Rejected&quot; because I didn&apos;t make any change to the
spec. Please let me know if I misunderstood what you were saying.

&gt;1) 11.1 is repeated twice. 
removed duplicate.

&gt;2) Logos.
whether or not to provide an indication of the presence of a logo is dependent upon the context the image is being used in. In most cases the best course of action if the presenece of the logo is to be indicated would be to provide it with a caption.  I will add an example isllustrating this to the spec.

&gt;3) Distinguishing between illustrations and photographs. 
again the best emthod to provide such image categorisation is via a caption.  I will add an example isllustrating this to the spec.</thetext>
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    <commentid>42816</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</who>
    <bug_when>2010-11-28 07:19:13 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are
satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If
you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please
reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML
Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest
title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue
yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
   http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

Status: partially accepted
Change Description: removed duplicate
Rationale: I&apos;m marking this &quot;Rejected&quot; because I didn&apos;t make any change to the
spec. Please let me know if I misunderstood what you were saying.

&gt;1) 11.1 is repeated twice. 
removed duplicate.

&gt;2) Logos.
whether or not to provide an indication of the presence of a logo is dependent upon the context the image is being used in. In most cases the best course of action if the presenece of the logo is to be indicated would be to provide it with a caption.  I will add an example isllustrating this to the spec.

&gt;3) Distinguishing between illustrations and photographs. 
again the best emthod to provide such image categorisation is via a caption.  I will add an example isllustrating this to the spec.</thetext>
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