9438 2010-04-06 22:24:33 +0000 several issues with the hidden attribute 2010-10-04 14:29:17 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified HTML WG pre-LC1 HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson) unspecified PC Windows NT RESOLVED FIXED P2 normal --- 1 faulkner.steve ian ian mike mjs public-html-admin public-html-wg-issue-tracking public-html-bugzilla oldest_to_newest 34622 0 faulkner.steve 2010-04-06 22:24:33 +0000 the hidden attribute is listed under the following section heading: "7 User interaction This section describes various features that allow authors to enable users to edit documents and parts of documents interactively." but there is no explanation of what hidden has to do with how to "edit documents and parts of documents interactively" request either an explanation be provided, the section heading changed to better reflect its content or the hidden attribute text be moved to a more appropriate location. The following example seems counter intuitive. the usefulnes of the tabbed interface is to sectionalise and hide portions of content from all users, only the selected tab panel is displayed. I have not seen any tabbed interface that allows the display of simultaneous tab panels within a set of tabs. "For example, it is incorrect to use hidden to hide panels in a tabbed dialog, because the tabbed interface is merely a kind of overflow presentation — one could equally well just show all the form controls in one big page with a scrollbar. It is similarly incorrect to use this attribute to hide content just from one presentation — if something is marked hidden, it is hidden from all presentations, including, for instance, screen readers." Request to make it clearer when the hidden attribute should be used by providing better examples; for example the display of a "loading" image is only relevant when there is something being loaded: 34643 1 mjs 2010-04-08 08:19:27 +0000 There's other features in that section that are not obviously related to editing: - click() method - scrollIntoView() method - accesskey The following is at best tangentially related to editing: - tabindex - focus stuff - drag & drop I would guess the intro line once applied to a more specific section, and needs to be updated. 34858 2 ian 2010-04-13 01:42:31 +0000 EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document: http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html Status: Accepted Change Description: see diff given below Rationale: Oops. That line was supposed to be removed long ago.