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    <bug>
          <bug_id>8368</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2009-11-24 22:02:55 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Remove the Communication Section 8</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2010-10-04 14:45:53 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>pre-LC1 HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson)</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>Macintosh</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Mac System 9.x</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>NE</keywords>
          <priority>P3</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Shelley Powers">shelleyp</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</assigned_to>
          <cc>ian</cc>
    
    <cc>julian.reschke</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>mjs</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-wg-issue-tracking</cc>
    
    <cc>shelleyp</cc>
          
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    <commentid>29703</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Shelley Powers">shelleyp</who>
    <bug_when>2009-11-24 22:02:55 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>This section is specific to a certain type of user agent, and only within specific conditions. It has absolutely nothing to do with HTML or XHTML, or with the DOM. The focus of the section is communication between applications, and the only connection I can find to HTML, XHTML, and the DOM, is that the applications also render HTML. 

Section 8 includes material that exceeds the bounds for what a reasonable person would assume be covered in a specification devoted to HTML, XHTML, and the DOM. However, the section does include material of interest to a subgroup of HTML UAs, and as such should be preserved in a separate specification.

Since there are dependencies between this section and objects covered in Section 6, a reasonable person could assume a merger between these two sections into a separate specification.</thetext>
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    <commentid>29706</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Maciej Stachowiak">mjs</who>
    <bug_when>2009-11-24 23:10:48 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Cross-document messaging and channel messaging could probably be split into a separate spec and likely would be welcomed by WebApps WG. I don&apos;t think any other part of the spec depends on the contents of section 8. Section 8 does depend on Window and on the origin concept, but so does XMLHttpRequest, and that hasn&apos;t been a problem.</thetext>
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    <commentid>30751</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2010-01-08 09:21:34 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
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Status: Partially Accepted
Change Description: split into its own subspec
Rationale: the section is no more mature than microdata, it is not widely used, and could be reused in other languages.</thetext>
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    <commentid>30752</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="">contributor</who>
    <bug_when>2010-01-08 09:22:25 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Checked in as WHATWG revision r4548.
Check-in comment: split out communications section
http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=4547&amp;to=4548
</thetext>
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    <commentid>30798</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Shelley Powers">shelleyp</who>
    <bug_when>2010-01-09 00:45:34 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #3)
&gt; Checked in as WHATWG revision r4548.
&gt; Check-in comment: split out communications section
&gt; http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=4547&amp;to=4548
&gt; 

The communication section would be better in the Web apps group. And I believe you need to discuss publishing Communication as a FPWD with the group, first.</thetext>
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    <commentid>30851</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="Shelley Powers">shelleyp</who>
    <bug_when>2010-01-10 21:01:21 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>I&apos;m mainly re-opening this bug, until there&apos;s a decision made about where the split-out section is going. </thetext>
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    <commentid>30888</commentid>
    <comment_count>6</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2010-01-11 10:12:29 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>That&apos;s not how the process works.</thetext>
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