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    <bug>
          <bug_id>8318</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2009-11-16 22:02:59 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Raise ARIA TF issue - why do we need role=&quot;log&quot;?</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2010-03-30 14:57:05 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>ARIA</product>
          <component>Core AAM</component>
          <version>1.0</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Windows XP</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>WONTFIX</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P1</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Andi Snow-Weaver">andi.snowweaver</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="David Bolter">dbolter</assigned_to>
          
          
          <qa_contact name="ARIA UA Implementors">aria-ua-impl</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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    <commentid>29598</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Andi Snow-Weaver">andi.snowweaver</who>
    <bug_when>2009-11-16 22:02:59 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>From 13 October 2009 UAI TF meeting:
DB: log - role that is a handy way to get a live region
... like a table that is kind of an online chat - rows get added dynamically
... experience is degraded unless use underlying markup
... browser should expose what it would expose if role=&quot;log&quot; was not there and add aria-live attribute

CS: maybe this is a strong/native semantic thing - log should not override table
... but if put it on a div, then it should change the role

DB: use of log should be for making something live, not changing the role semantic

CS: need a note - comments column - or footnote - if log is placed on something that has its own mapping, should not change
...if it&apos;s placed on something that doesn&apos;t have its own mapping, like div, maybe it does have a mapping, still open for discussion
... in all cases, it makes it a live region
... question is why does this even exist?

DB: expose as live attribute - polite but not in the DOM

CS: might make sense to add to DOM
... why do we even need log? can just add aria-live attribute

DB: note that there is a similar HTML 5 element

http://www.w3.org/2009/10/13-aapi-minutes.html</thetext>
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