826 2004-07-22 10:30:08 +0000 Error when there is PCDATA inside blockquote in XHTML1.1 2005-12-24 03:07:40 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified Validator Parser 0.6.6 PC other REOPENED P2 normal --- 1 edechaux link www-validator-cvs oldest_to_newest 2089 0 edechaux 2004-07-22 10:30:08 +0000 The following XHTML code fails to validate. An error is found on le PCDATA inside the blockquote element. However on page http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml- modularization/abstract_modules.html#s_textmodule, it is indicated that PCDATA can be placed inside this element. What is good ? <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-15"?> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/ DTD/xhtml11.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="fr"> <head> <title>FooBar</title> </head> <body> <blockquote>blockquote</blockquote> </body> </html> 2090 1 bjoern 2004-07-22 10:44:22 +0000 Well... well... just see http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xhtml-modularization- 20040218/abstract_modules.html#s_textmodule which is probably more accurate. 2091 2 edechaux 2004-07-22 11:00:54 +0000 Much better, thank you. 5377 3 gogogadgetearl 2005-08-09 00:19:48 +0000 how come the 'latest' version of the xhtml 1.1 recommendation shows that PCDATA can be resident immediately within a blockquote? 5378 4 bjoern 2005-08-09 00:31:44 +0000 Hi dododododoot, I'm afraid the W3C Validator Team can't answer such questions, we don't write or maintain the HTML/XHTML specifications. If you look at the XHTML 1.1 Recommendation you will note that the Status sections suggest to send comments to the www-html-editor@w3.org mailing list. The HTML Working Group should be able to answer such questions. Please also check the document cited in comment #1. 7448 5 johnny_bentley 2005-12-15 02:09:53 +0000 Dear Björn, you misunderstand dododododoot's question. It was rhetorical. The current XHTML 1.1 recommendation, http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/, points to http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-modularization/abstract_modules.html#s_textmodule Modularization of XHTML™ W3C Recommendation 10 April 2001 Not to http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xhtml-modularization-20040218/abstract_modules.html#s_textmodule Modularization of XHTML™ 1.0 - Second Edition W3C Working Draft 18 February 2004 Although this second "Modularization" document comes later it is only a working draft. I have emailed www-html-editor@w3.org to point out that PCDATA was not included in the blockquote. Maybe this is deliberate, maybe it is a mistake. Either way when you want to validate against XHTML 1.1, you want it to validate against THE recommendation, not a working draft. The recommendation DOES allow PCDATA within blockquotes. By the way the recommendation does make sense. It would seem pointless to force page authors to code: <blockquote><p>I am the greateast</p></blockquote> Rather than allow them, as the recommendation does allow,: <blockquote>I am the greatest</blockquote> I, for one, would be grateful if you (or whoever) where to recode the Validator to follow the recommendation. 7539 6 ralesk 2005-12-24 03:07:40 +0000 Interestingly, while [1] lists blockquote contents as (PCDATA | Heading | Block | List)*, the DTD [2] says the following: <!ENTITY % blockquote.element "INCLUDE" > <![%blockquote.element;[ <!ENTITY % blockquote.content "( %Block.mix; )+" Now, I don't particularly see %Block.mix or anything related EVER declared, I guess from body.content also having just a "( %Block.mix; )+", that this does not include #PCDATA. I personally don't see this as a good idea, since, well, blockquote is little more than a div with phrasal information, really. Now, at the end of the DTD [3], there we see the following: <!ENTITY % blockquote.content "( #PCDATA | %Flow.mix; )*" > <!ENTITY % body.content "( #PCDATA | %Flow.mix; )*" > Which seems to allow PCDATA in both of these, directly. It's perfectly understood (Re: #4) that this is not the place recommend changes to the DTD, the Recommendation, or anything like that, but I believe it's important to bring lights to the inconsistency between the recommendation and the DTD. [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-modularization/abstract_modules.html - XHTML Modularisation Recommendation, W3C, 2001, Abstract Modules chapter [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-modularization/dtd_module_defs.html#a_module_Block_Phrasal - XHTML Modularisation Recommendation, W3C, 2001, DTD implementation of Text Module [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-modularization/dtd_module_defs.html#a_module_Legacy_Redeclarations - XHTML Modularisation Recommendation, W3C, 2001, DTD implementation, Legacy Redeclaration