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    <bug>
          <bug_id>8076</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2009-10-26 20:59:56 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Enum and Eventing: Inconsistent Across Protocol and Metadata</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2015-06-20 16:35:10 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>WS-Resource Access</product>
          <component>All</component>
          <version>FPWD</version>
          <rep_platform>All</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>CLOSED</bug_status>
          <resolution>REMIND</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Asir V Selvasingh">asirveda</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="notifications mailing list for WS Resource Access">public-ws-resource-access-notifications</assigned_to>
          <cc>dug</cc>
          
          <qa_contact name="notifications mailing list for WS Resource Access">public-ws-resource-access-notifications</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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    <commentid>29045</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Asir V Selvasingh">asirveda</who>
    <bug_when>2009-10-26 20:59:56 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>&gt; ACTION-108: Raise second and third editorial note as new issue and they will be deleted (see http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/tracker/actions/108).

Reference: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Sep/0108.html 

The WS-Enumeration protocol relies on the absence of the Expire element to indicate infinite lifetime. Whereas, the optional /wsenp:Enumeration/wsenp:MaxExpires policy assertion parameter relies on the value &apos;PT0S&apos; to indicate that an endpoint supports enumerations with an infinite lifetime. At the Hursley F2F, to avoid confusion, the WG assigned an action to Asir to raise this as a separate issue.

WG resolutions for issues 7478 [1] and 7587 [2] reinforced that the absence of the Expire element indicates infinite lifetime.

Proposal

s/Note: a value of &quot;PT0S&quot; indicates that this endpoint supports enumerations with an infinite lifetime./The implied default is indefinite (no expiry)./

There is a precedent in WS-RA specs for relying on the absence of policy assertion parameters to signal defaults. TransferResource policy assertion says, &quot;Unless support for OPTIONAL operations is explicitly indicated by either the PutOperationSupported or DeleteOperationSupported parameters only the Get operation is supported.&quot;

The same reasoning applies to the following policy assertion parameters:

/wsenp:Enumeration/wsenp:MaxTime
/wsevp:EventSource/wsevp:MaxExpires

[1] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7478#c4
[2] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7587#c3

Regards,

Asir S Vedamuthu
Microsoft Corporation</thetext>
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    <commentid>29371</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Robert Freund">bob</who>
    <bug_when>2009-11-05 23:35:47 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Resolved with:
In four places: /wsenp:Enumeration/wsenp:MaxExpires, /wsenp:Enumeration/wsenp:MaxTime, /wsevp:EventSource/wsevp:MaxExpires, /wsevp/SubcrptiionManager:MaxExpires
add the sentence &quot;The implied default is indefinite (no expiry).&quot; before the text &quot;Note: a value of &quot;PT0S&quot; indicates that this endpoint supports enumerations with an infinite lifetime.&quot;</thetext>
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    <commentid>121286</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Jackie">jackiewindsor09</who>
    <bug_when>2015-06-20 16:34:21 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Please make my changes</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>121366</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Jackie">jackiewindsor09</who>
    <bug_when>2015-06-20 16:35:10 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Please make my changes</thetext>
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