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    <bug>
          <bug_id>7800</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2009-10-05 00:22:12 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>title attribute: add new attr for machine-readable strings</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2010-10-05 13:03:18 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>pre-LC1 HTML Microdata (editor: Ian Hickson)</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>All</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>WORKSFORME</resolution>
          
          
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          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>NE</keywords>
          <priority>P3</priority>
          <bug_severity>enhancement</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Nick Levinson">Nick_Levinson</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</assigned_to>
          <cc>ian</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-wg-issue-tracking</cc>
    
    <cc>zcorpan</cc>
          
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    <commentid>28039</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Nick Levinson">Nick_Levinson</who>
    <bug_when>2009-10-05 00:22:12 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Microformats rely often on the title attribute to provide machine-readable strings. This conflicts with tooltips, when they&apos;re not meant to be humanly readable. Unhelpful and uninteresting tooltips popping up interfere with user experiences.

Uses of title for machine-parseable strings may be found at http://microformats.org.

A new attribute should be added.

I propose machine as the new attribute.

Using title for machine-readable non-tooltip strings should be deprecated.

While presently-stable microformats will likely retain title, this should encourage developers to be more semantic. And where the same string can be both a tooltip and machine-usable, using both attributes is preferred over title alone.

Thank you.

-- 
Nick</thetext>
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    <commentid>28054</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Simon Pieters">zcorpan</who>
    <bug_when>2009-10-05 11:29:15 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Microdata uses &lt;meta itemprop=... content=...&gt; for this purpose. Does that satisfy your use case?</thetext>
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    <commentid>28089</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Nick Levinson">Nick_Levinson</who>
    <bug_when>2009-10-06 16:10:24 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Yes, on first impression I think it would work (cf. http://microformats.org/wiki/microdata); I should have caught the microdata addition to HTML5 earlier.

Although I wonder if machine and microdata couldn&apos;t coexist. A machine=&quot;&quot; attribute would be sufficiently semantic and easier for page authoring.</thetext>
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    <commentid>28514</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2009-10-20 00:52:12 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Microdata&apos;s entire purpose is to be machine-readable (while being primarily design to be easy to author).

So I don&apos;t see what it would mean for the microdata and machine to not coexist.

Anyway since &lt;meta&gt; satisfies your request, marked resolved. Please reopen with a clear description of what your request is, if there is something still to address.</thetext>
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