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    <bug>
          <bug_id>7374</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2009-08-19 22:12:25 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>legend as child of details, figure is unstylable and thus unusable</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2010-10-04 14:28:27 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>pre-LC1 HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson)</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>All</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>VERIFIED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>NE, NoReply</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>major</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Bruce Lawson">bruce</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</assigned_to>
          <cc>cgriego</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>mjs</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-wg-issue-tracking</cc>
    
    <cc>remy</cc>
          
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    <commentid>26542</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Bruce Lawson">bruce</who>
    <bug_when>2009-08-19 22:12:25 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Legacy browsers cannot style legend as child of details or figure - see http://html5doctor.com/legend-not-such-a-legend-anymore/ 

Because of this, authors will almost certainly not use them.

Tests re-using caption, label failed (see http://remysharp.com/2009/08/12/saving-figure-detail/). 

One option is redefining header so it can be the &quot;legend&quot;.

Alternatively a new element - &lt;description&gt;? &lt;c&gt;? should be specified.</thetext>
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    <commentid>26548</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Maciej Stachowiak">mjs</who>
    <bug_when>2009-08-20 02:13:03 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>We&apos;re otherwise interested in implementing new HTML5 elements in WebKit, but this issue is blocking us from doing &lt;details&gt; or &lt;figure&gt;. We may fix &lt;legend&gt; parsing soon, but we&apos;ll be hesitant to add &lt;figure&gt; or &lt;details&gt; until other browsers have this fixed.</thetext>
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    <commentid>26554</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Remy Sharp">remy</who>
    <bug_when>2009-08-20 07:49:02 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>As an author, the legacy issues linked to the &lt;legend&gt; element are too big to overcome (or at least so far in all our testing), and the &lt;figure&gt; and &lt;details&gt; are valuable additions to the markup language.

I would like to see support from vendors to find/propose an alternative to the &lt;legend&gt; element as this will work across all browsers.  I&apos;ve been through a lot of the tests (Bruce references my blog posts) so it&apos;s safe to say even fixing &lt;legend&gt; in future browsers sadly isn&apos;t enough to allow authors to start using &lt;figure&gt; and &lt;details&gt;

What, if any, are the objects to the two suggestions Bruce has?

&gt; Alternatively a new element - &lt;description&gt;? &lt;c&gt;? should be specified.
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  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>27175</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2009-09-15 11:15:51 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Used &lt;dt&gt;/&lt;dd&gt;.</thetext>
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    <commentid>33292</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Maciej Stachowiak">mjs</who>
    <bug_when>2010-03-14 14:49:46 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>This bug predates the HTML Working Group Decision Policy.

If you are satisfied with the resolution of this bug, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
  http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

This bug is now being moved to VERIFIED. Please respond within two weeks. If this bug is not closed, reopened or escalated within two weeks, it may be marked as NoReply and will no longer be considered a pending comment.
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