6496 2009-01-29 15:42:58 +0000 Allow <img aria-labelledby> to act as a text alternative 2014-02-26 18:20:02 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified HTML WG HTML5 spec unspecified All All CLOSED WONTFIX accessibility taskforce to review a11y, a11ytf, a11y_text-alt, CR, TrackerIssue P3 normal --- 8171 8716 1 zcorpan faulkner.steve cooper hsivonen laura.lee.carlson mark.sadecki+w3c mike olivier.gendrin public-html-a11y public-html-admin public-html-wg-issue-tracking robin travil w3c public-html-bugzilla oldest_to_newest 23322 0 zcorpan 2009-01-29 15:42:58 +0000 When integrating ARIA in HTML5, the <img> section should probably allow <img aria-labelledby> to be used as a way to "caption" the image (same as title="", <figure><legend>, etc). 26881 1 ian 2009-09-07 10:01:50 +0000 I've integrated ARIA, and allowed aria-labelledby, but making HTML document conformance depend on ARIA seems like a layering violation to me. If the image is described by another paragraph, then use alt="" along with aria-labelledby="...", not just the latter with no alt. 26935 2 hsivonen 2009-09-08 13:08:12 +0000 Why alt=""? If alt="" means "don't expose to AT", how does the user navigate to the node? (FWIW, I agree that what's being requested here is a layering violation in principle, but it seems useful not to pretend that HTML and ARIA exist on different layers.) 29292 3 cooper 2009-11-03 22:47:11 +0000 *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 8171 *** 31456 4 cooper 2010-02-04 16:42:38 +0000 Removing myself from cc list, default on bug edits is to add, but I'm only acting on behalf of HTML A11Y TF which is already cc'd. 31797 5 cooper 2010-02-11 17:26:22 +0000 Per the proposal at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jan/0245.html, the HTML A11Y TF does not plan to formally work on this issue at this time. This does not mean the TF has no interest in it, but does not have immediate plans to work on it. The TF may review the issue in the future. 32879 6 laura.lee.carlson 2010-03-10 12:37:01 +0000 Adding TrackerIssue Keyword. @aria-labelledby is part of the change proposal, "Replace img Guidance for Conformance Checkers" for HTML WG Issue 31. http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ImgElement20090126 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/31 WAI CG Consensus Resolutions on Text alternatives in HTML 5 specifically recommends the use of @aria-labelledby for a short text alternative. http://www.w3.org/2009/06/Text-Alternatives-in-HTML5 34340 7 ian 2010-04-01 21:58:33 +0000 EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document: http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html Status: Rejected Change Description: no spec change Rationale: To reply to comment 2, there's no need to expose the element at all if the description and replacement is completely expressed elsewhere in the page, as far as I can tell. 37610 8 laura.lee.carlson 2010-08-18 13:04:49 +0000 Change Proposals: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ImgElement20090126 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ImgElement20100706 43128 9 w3c 2010-12-07 14:13:45 +0000 Related to ISSUE-31, further addressed in "HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives" (http://dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/) 43134 10 w3c 2010-12-07 16:08:42 +0000 The bug-triage sub-team thinks this should be an accessibility task force priority. 83147 11 faulkner.steve 2013-02-14 16:27:58 +0000 accessibility taskforce to review 94662 12 faulkner.steve 2013-10-14 15:43:53 +0000 EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the Editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the Tracker Issue; or you may create a Tracker Issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document: http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html Status: wontfix Change Description: no change Rationale: alt and aria-labelledby are not the same, alt as implemented has different effects, for example if there is a none empty alt present the presence of the image is identified in most user agents and the text alternative is displayed with a visible relation to the image indicator.