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    <bug>
          <bug_id>556</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2004-02-23 12:35:02 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Dependency to other technologies - Section 3.5.6</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2005-01-04 20:39:12 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>WS Choreography</product>
          <component>Spec: Concrete and QOS</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>Other</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>other</op_sys>
          <bug_status>CLOSED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>--</target_milestone>
          <dependson>555</dependson>
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Greg Ritzinger">gritzinger</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Greg Ritzinger">gritzinger</assigned_to>
          
          
          

      

      

      

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    <commentid>1374</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Greg Ritzinger">gritzinger</who>
    <bug_when>2004-02-23 12:35:02 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>&gt; Section 3.5.6:
&gt; Monica. Please specify what specifications of which you make 
&gt; reference. An agreement protocol doesn&apos;t exist in web services, unless 
&gt; this is the
&gt; infrastructure coordination/transactional evolving capabilities. Is 
&gt; this the meaning of this statement?
&gt; David. Perhaps a &quot;common understanding&quot; would be better than 
&gt; &quot;agreement&quot; as in &quot;the Roles in the Choreography have a common
&gt; understanding of the outcome&quot;.
&gt; Monica. If this relates to WS-CAF, suggest this be a team discussion 
&gt; item for specific reference (Note: Do we approach by requirement or by
&gt; specification?). Implicit dependencies exist. Should we pose these in 
&gt; a separate document or section of this overview?
&gt; David. I agree that dependencies exist and need to be discussed.</thetext>
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    <commentid>2085</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Charlton Barreto">charlton</who>
    <bug_when>2004-07-13 15:06:45 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>After further review and discussion, a short list of specifications have been
identified as either critical or optional to ws-chor:
--&gt; Critical
	* BPEL
	* WSDL
	* XPath/XQuery
--&gt; Optional 
	* BPMN
	* BPSS
	* WS-Coordination
	* WS-Reliability
	* WS-Addressing
There are others which I am continuing to investigate and will discuss. I would
like to enter the above critical and optional dependencies as a part of a
general discussion point on ws-chor dependencies. The BPEL, WSDL and XPath
dependencies are critical to ws-chor and we will need to resolve which versions
we will support in 1.0. The BPMN, BPSS and WS-Coordination are less critical yet
may impact ws-chor and thus need to be discussed. 
I will present more details on these in this bug description. </thetext>
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    <commentid>2122</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Charlton Barreto">charlton</who>
    <bug_when>2004-08-06 06:30:01 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>I believe we&apos;ve addressed - at least conditionally - the BPEL, WSDL and by
extension the XPath/XQuery dependencies. 

As to the rest, Monica has commented as follows:
- WS-Coordination 
WS-Coordination Framework, WS-BTP are open and emerging standards. WS-C is
proprietary currently.

- WS-Reliability 
Same holds true here (WS-ReliableMessaging is proprietary).

- WS-Addressing 
WS-MessageDelivery also applies. At least three groups, WS-CAF, WS-Reliability
and WS-BPEL are working on an abstract content model that abstracts away from
such a dependency (i.e. a proprietary specification - lock in avoided as well).

We definitely need to ensure that we conform to open standards. 

I propose that as far as WS-Reliability and WS-Addressing are concerned, we hold
to the WS-CAF/WS-Reliability/WS-BPEL abstract content model (vs.
WS-ReliableMessaging and WS-MessageDelivery). I propose that as far as
WS-Coordination is concerned, we hold to the WS-Coordination Framework and
WS-BTP standards (vs. WS-C).</thetext>
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    <commentid>2673</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Martin Chapman">martin.chapman</who>
    <bug_when>2004-12-01 16:40:07 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>*** Bug 557 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>2781</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Greg Ritzinger">gritzinger</who>
    <bug_when>2005-01-04 20:38:05 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>SRT - Was talked about at the F2F. RECOMMENDATION - Due to Charlton&apos;s 
proposals at the F2F this should be marked as CLOSE FIXED.</thetext>
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