5311 2007-12-10 10:52:34 +0000 'foreignObject' as a child of any container element 2009-05-31 20:08:20 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified SVG DTD SVG 1.1 Full All All RESOLVED FIXED http://www.peepo.co.uk P2 normal Test Suite 1 jay schepers cam ed tor www-svg oldest_to_newest 18020 0 jay 2007-12-10 10:52:34 +0000 there are clear practical reasons why it is sensible to use switch as little as necessary. in this case to play a sound file and present text in a single language: <switch> <g systemLanguage="nl"> <text x="130" y="65">radio</text> <foreignObject class="audio" width="1" height="1" > <object xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" data="sound/nl/radio.mp3" /> </foreignObject> </g> ... </switch> This could be separated as two separate switches, but that makes for harder maintenance and poor code. In SVGT12 'foreignObject' can be a child of any container element, which is more useful and that is what Opera and Firefox allows. 25376 1 cam 2009-05-30 12:21:46 +0000 Hi Jonathan. Indeed it shouldn't be necessary to use a <switch> in such cases. This has been fixed in a recently published erratum (http://www.w3.org/2003/01/REC-SVG11-20030114-errata#allow-foreignobject-outside-switch) and has been folded in to the Editor's Draft of SVG 1.1 Second Edition (http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/). Doug, can you mark this bug resolved? 25381 2 jay 2009-05-31 07:35:13 +0000 http://www.w3.org/TR/SMIL3/smil-content.html#adef-allowReorder allowReorder="yes" http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2009Mar/0065.html On being humane for reasons of accessibility does it not remain correct to state that switch should be used, else the suthors order of languages will be preferred over the users? 25382 3 cam 2009-05-31 08:36:48 +0000 Hi Jonathan. (In reply to comment #2) > http://www.w3.org/TR/SMIL3/smil-content.html#adef-allowReorder > allowReorder="yes" > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2009Mar/0065.html > On being humane > > for reasons of accessibility does it not remain correct to state that switch > should be used, else the suthors order of languages will be preferred over the > users? I don't think that is correct. Without <switch>, there is no selection among a set of languages. You can only state that a subtree will not be processed if a given language is not one of the user's preferred languages. The issue of allowReorder="" in SVG seems to me to be a separate one from this bug, which is about where <foreignObject> is allowed by the DTD. 25383 4 jay 2009-05-31 10:00:01 +0000 #3 Cameron, I remain confused doesn't this: "You can only state that a subtree will not be processed if a given language is not one of the user's preferred languages." mean that the user gets 'no' default information in this case? that being the reason for using a switch... 25384 5 schepers 2009-05-31 17:25:13 +0000 (In reply to comment #4) > #3 Cameron, > > I remain confused doesn't this: > > "You can only state that a subtree will not be processed if a > given language is not one of the user's preferred languages." > > mean that the user gets 'no' default information in this case? > that being the reason for using a switch... This bug was about allowing <foreignObject> as a child of any container element. That has been resolved, and you can use <foreignObject> anywhere you can use any graphical element, not just as a child of <switch>. Therefore, questions or comments about <switch> are orthogonal. If you have questions about the functionality of <switch>, you should be asking them on the mailing lists, not in a bug report. I gather that you are suggesting a Best Practice, which is another matter entirely. 25385 6 jay 2009-05-31 20:08:20 +0000 #5 Doug, should you feel so disposed, you are encouraged to take the issues raised forward elsewhere.