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          <bug_id>5190</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2007-10-13 02:32:36 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Add Details for Describing Files and Elements</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2007-10-13 08:33:41 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
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          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>SVG</product>
          <component>Accessibility Support</component>
          <version>All Specifications</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Windows XP</op_sys>
          <bug_status>NEW</bug_status>
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          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>major</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>Feature Request</target_milestone>
          
          
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          <reporter name="Doug Schepers">schepers</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Doug Schepers">schepers</assigned_to>
          <cc>jay</cc>
          
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    <commentid>17174</commentid>
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    <who name="Doug Schepers">schepers</who>
    <bug_when>2007-10-13 02:32:36 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>We should add best-practice examples of how to describe SVG files using a combination of the &lt;title&gt;, &lt;desc&gt;, and &lt;metadata&gt; elements, including the use of RDF and microformats.  This should be explicated in the Accessibility Note, but also exemplified throughout the specs, and in any tutorial materials we make or endorse.

We should also add conformance criteria in section &quot;D.5.1 Conforming SVG Interpreters&quot; for search engines, so that they index SVG files, and at the very least present the text and metadata of the file as search results, and preferably cache them as static images (to be presented a la Google Image Search).  Language translation tools (also common in some search engines) should also be able to translate the contents of the file.


For more details, see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2007Oct/0084.html
http://www.schepers.cc/?p=11</thetext>
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    <commentid>17175</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="j.chetwynd">jay</who>
    <bug_when>2007-10-13 07:32:13 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Can I propose the new SW logo as this combines many WG and includes text?

 http://www.w3.org/2007/10/sw-logos.html

doug if you agree please copy or use anything from my recent offlist post.
perhaps a little long for here

let&apos;s use one (RDF?) in an attachment here, and then copy Ivan in...
add (desc) to description

this is political, perhaps especially the translation issue.
should W3C provide translated logos like peepo.co.uk?

regarding caching static image, should the author (optionally?) provide a link image? is there a tech term for such a thing?

please change os to &apos;all&apos;
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    <commentid>17176</commentid>
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    <who name="Doug Schepers">schepers</who>
    <bug_when>2007-10-13 08:19:24 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Created attachment 493
Semantic Web logo with Text Underlying Graphical Glyph Representations</thetext>
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    <commentid>17177</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Doug Schepers">schepers</who>
    <bug_when>2007-10-13 08:33:41 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #1)
&gt; Can I propose the new SW logo as this combines many WG and includes text?
&gt; 
&gt;  http://www.w3.org/2007/10/sw-logos.html

This is not the place for this conversation.  This is not a forum, it&apos;s an issue tracker for tracking feature requests and technical issues with the SVG specifications and resources.  If you fill it with off-topic material, it will make it harder for everyone (both the public and the SVG WG) to use it to efficiently address open issues. 

Nevertheless, I&apos;ve posted a &quot;fixed&quot; version of that logo, with real text supplementing the null-semantic glyph shapes.

&gt; regarding caching static image, should the author (optionally?) provide a link
&gt; image? is there a tech term for such a thing?

I don&apos;t think that&apos;s necessary or desirable.  Rasterizing SVG, if that&apos;s what the search engine chooses to do, is trivially easy, and could be done on the fly when indexing.  Author-pre-cached images mean more to maintain, and a greater chance of losing sync, and nobody would do it anyway.


&gt; please change os to &apos;all&apos;

As I explain in the Feedback page (http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/feedback.html), please ignore Platform and OS... they are meaningless in the context of non-software issues, but Bugzilla is a little clunky.


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