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    <bug>
          <bug_id>5038</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2007-09-12 14:58:50 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>potential issues for primer and guidelines</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2007-09-26 17:20:24 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>WS-Policy</product>
          <component>Primer</component>
          <version>FPWD</version>
          <rep_platform>All</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jul/0047.html</bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>futureConsideration</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Christopher Ferris">chrisfer</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</assigned_to>
          
          
          <qa_contact name="Web Services Policy WG QA List">public-ws-policy-qa</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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          <long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>16504</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Christopher Ferris">chrisfer</who>
    <bug_when>2007-09-12 14:58:50 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>See email from Ken Laskey: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jul/0047.html

1. The expanded definition for policy [1] at times seems to cover an  
immense amount of the general description space but then the examples  
for use are mostly restricted to the tedious (but necessary for  
message level interoperability) details.  The discussion does not  
support the business use that is needed if services are to accomplish  
more than geek talk.  Even at the wire level, a big gap is how do  
consumers use WS-Policy to express their capabilities and  
requirements that will be used to determine policy intersection.  The  
consumers do not have WSDLs and may have no interest in UDDI.  They  
do, however, want to point to a policy that says you should not sell  
their contact information, i.e. what was carefully exchanged in a  
manner to initially ensure privacy will remain private.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>16506</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Christopher Ferris">chrisfer</who>
    <bug_when>2007-09-12 15:04:13 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>1] For example, [Primer, section 2.1] Web Services Policy is a  
machine-readable language for representing the capabilities and  
requirements of a Web service. These are called policies.  Also,  
consistent text in WS-Policy Framework states, &quot;A policy assertion  
represents a requirement, capability, or other property of a behavior.&quot;</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>16691</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Christopher Ferris">chrisfer</who>
    <bug_when>2007-09-19 16:52:50 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>RESOLUTION: WG agrees with maryann&apos;s proposal in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Sep/0020.html mail, with changes made here during this call
See http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-ws-policy-irc#T16-52-08</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>16818</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Christopher Ferris">chrisfer</who>
    <bug_when>2007-09-26 17:20:24 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>see Ken&apos;s response to the WG response to his issue: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Sep/0033.html

It contains some potentially useful and certainly interesting analysis.</thetext>
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