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    <bug>
          <bug_id>4251</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2007-01-17 18:51:21 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>[WSDL11Ids] Change syntax for some WSDL 1.1 identifiers</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2007-02-14 17:58:46 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>WS-Policy</product>
          <component>WSDL1.1-Element-Identifiers</component>
          <version>FPWD</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Windows XP</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Ashok Malhotra">ashok.malhotra</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</assigned_to>
          
          
          <qa_contact name="Web Services Policy WG QA List">public-ws-policy-qa</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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    <commentid>13666</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Ashok Malhotra">ashok.malhotra</who>
    <bug_when>2007-01-17 18:51:21 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>This issue was first discussed in my note http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0128.html
It recommended that the syntax of the identifiers
- wsdl11.portTypeMessageReference(portType/operation/message)
- wsdl11.portTypeOperationFault(portType/operation/fault)
be changed to 
- wsdl11.portTypeMessageInput(portType/operation)
- wsdl11.portTypeMessageOutput(portType/operation)
- wsdl11.portTypeMessageFault(portType/operation)

Similar changes were recommended for the corresponding identifiers for the binding element.

David Orchard argued that the syntax was designed to allign with the WSDL 2.0 syntax.  So, I asked the WSDL 2.0 WG for their opinion.  They explained their rationale in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0092.html

Jonathan Marsh expressed their opinion succintly as &quot;The WG expressed no preference on whether your suggested redesign was a
benefit for WSDL 1.1 component designators, where there isn&apos;t support for
MEP extensibility.  We note that if consistency with WSDL 2.0 component
designators is paramount, keeping this redundant information in the format
would be desirable.  Yet if simplicity is paramount, removing the redundant
information as you suggest would be natural.&quot;

Thus, we need to answer Jonathan question above and take the appropriate decision.</thetext>
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    <commentid>13766</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="David Orchard">orchard</who>
    <bug_when>2007-01-22 20:23:06 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>During F2F, WG agreed to change &quot;In&quot; to &quot;input&quot; and &quot;Out&quot; to &quot;output&quot; as per Dave O&apos;s email.  Bug is still open to see whether WG will move these outside of parenthesis.</thetext>
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    <commentid>13991</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Christopher Ferris">chrisfer</who>
    <bug_when>2007-02-14 17:58:46 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>RESOLUTION: 4251 closed with proposal from daveO http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0180.html
See http://www.w3.org/2007/02/14-ws-policy-irc#T17-57-45</thetext>
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