3481 2006-07-18 18:48:53 +0000 Translatability 2006-10-03 14:48:00 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified ITS ITS tagset LastCall PC Windows XP CLOSED FIXED proposalAccepted, reviewerSatisfied P2 normal AfterLC 1 ysavourel fsasaki fsasaki oldest_to_newest 10571 0 ysavourel 2006-07-18 18:48:53 +0000 Issue #5 of i18nCore comments: http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0606-its/ Section 6.2: 'Translatability' is not a good term for this, since it is already used in the sense of internationalization to allow for easy translation. Perhaps "Translation information" would be better, and more consistent with other data category titles. FS: The first ITS WD already talks about "translatabilty". So does the requirements document http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-itsreq-20050805/#transinfo . Given this long history of the term which you must be aware of, I disagree with your request to change it. I also disagree with your argument of consistency with other data categories: Our envisaged users are likely to focus only on a subset of data categories, see also the conformance section which separates data categories. Hence, consistency of naming is not so important, but rather consistency between ITS working drafts, implementations, presentations, ... . I18n: There is no need to be consistent in this regard with past working drafts. People should expect Working Drafts to change, as described in the status section. There is a much greater need to go forward with appropriate terminology. We don't see that this is a difficult change to make. "Our envisaged users are likely to focus only on a subset of data categories" We believe this is irrelevant to appropriate naming of a given data category, but in addition I don't think you are proposing that the 'translatability' category will always be used independently of other implementations, so I don't think this argument holds. We may be prepared to accept that 'Translation Information' is too vague. Alternative suggestions for the title are 'Translate Information' or 'Translate Directive'. 10750 1 fsasaki 2006-07-25 05:23:26 +0000 Action: working group to discuss and reply. 10751 2 fsasaki 2006-07-25 05:25:20 +0000 Discussed at http://www.w3.org/2006/07/19-i18nits-minutes.html#item17 . Action: working group to continue discussion. 10916 3 fsasaki 2006-08-01 01:15:04 +0000 Discussed at http://www.w3.org/2006/07/31-i18nits-minutes.html#item05 . Resolution: we propose not to change the name of the data category, and keep "translatability". 11477 4 fsasaki 2006-09-07 04:02:44 +0000 Action: Felix to go back to i18n core 11560 5 fsasaki 2006-09-11 00:53:20 +0000 Wait: response sent. See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006JulSep/0298.html 11938 6 ysavourel 2006-09-21 13:43:56 +0000 After further discussion, WG agreed to change "Translatability" to "Translate". http://www.w3.org/2006/09/13-i18nits-minutes.html#action03 The change has been made, and the ID and IDREFs have been changed from translatability to trans-datacat. 11939 7 fsasaki 2006-09-21 14:05:57 +0000 Wait: response sent. See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006JulSep/0389.html . 12025 8 fsasaki 2006-09-26 10:41:18 +0000 Closed. Reviewer satisfied. See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006JulSep/0415.html . 12137 9 fsasaki 2006-09-28 06:31:19 +0000 Summary: The Working Group decided to accept the proposal and to change the name of the data category "translation information" to "Translate".