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    <bug>
          <bug_id>3361</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2006-06-19 02:30:03 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>No defined behavior if external rules can&apos;t be accessed</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2006-10-15 00:39:00 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>ITS</product>
          <component>ITS tagset</component>
          <version>LastCall</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Windows XP</op_sys>
          <bug_status>CLOSED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>changeDeclined, reviewerSatisfied</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>AfterLC</target_milestone>
          
          <blocked>3360</blocked>
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Yves Savourel">ysavourel</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Yves Savourel">ysavourel</assigned_to>
          <cc>istvan.lengyel</cc>
          
          <qa_contact name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</qa_contact>

      

      

      

          <comment_sort_order>oldest_to_newest</comment_sort_order>  
          <long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>10108</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Yves Savourel">ysavourel</who>
    <bug_when>2006-06-19 02:30:03 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>From MemoQ developers:

Issue #2: &quot;ITS doesn&apos;t define the procedure if rules defined in external resources aren&apos;t accessible (may ignore the existence of the unreachable link).&quot;


Comment from Yves:
&quot;Do we need to define a behavior for unreachable rules? Maybe just saying the processor should generate an error?&quot;


Comment from Sebastian:
&quot;I think we should say this is a fatal error.&quot;</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>10110</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-06-19 05:21:18 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #0)
&gt; From MemoQ developers:
&gt; 
&gt; Issue #2: &quot;ITS doesn&apos;t define the procedure if rules defined in external
&gt; resources aren&apos;t accessible (may ignore the existence of the unreachable
&gt; link).&quot;
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; Comment from Yves:
&gt; &quot;Do we need to define a behavior for unreachable rules? Maybe just saying the
&gt; processor should generate an error?&quot;
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; Comment from Sebastian:
&gt; &quot;I think we should say this is a fatal error.&quot;
&gt; 

I agree. One issue with this that we do not define any error behavior for ITS processors, and I think ITS is simple enough to avoid long error descriptions like e.g. in http://www.w3.org/TR/xslt20/#error-summary . Maybe it is enough to stay with our &quot;declarative&quot; descriptions how external rules MUST (RFC 2119) be interpreted, and add a non-normative ITS &quot;processing&quot; description. See also my comment at http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3360#c0 .</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>10150</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-06-20 05:32:52 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Added István to the CC list.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>10707</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-07-24 12:54:25 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Action: working group to discuss and reply.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>11407</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-09-06 15:28:23 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Discussed at http://www.w3.org/2006/09/06-i18nits-minutes.html#item14 . Resolution of the WG: the behavior is currently undefined. Implementors are encouraged to use common sense and generate errors when needed in implementing ITS processors.
Wait: answer sent.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>11987</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-09-24 00:01:29 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>No reply from commentor after two weeks. Closed.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>12122</commentid>
    <comment_count>6</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-09-28 06:11:37 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Summary: The Working Group decided not to define error conditions for non-accessible external rules.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>12478</commentid>
    <comment_count>7</comment_count>
    <who name="István Lengyel">istvan.lengyel</who>
    <bug_when>2006-10-14 17:43:55 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>We can accept the response. However, I feel that this will lead to numerous different implementations and the market may respond to this by trying to lock users in to use a certain implementation or another.</thetext>
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