3320 2006-06-07 05:55:20 +0000 Using IDs for nodes instead of / in addition to XPath 2006-10-03 14:42:17 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified ITS ITS tagset WorkingDraft PC Windows XP CLOSED FIXED changeDeclined, reviewerSatisfied P2 normal AfterLC 1 fsasaki fsasaki werner.donne fsasaki oldest_to_newest 9957 0 fsasaki 2006-06-07 05:55:20 +0000 See comments from at Daniel Glazman and Werner Donne at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0097.html: [[Daniel Glazman (invited expert in the CSS working group): "Why don't you use IDs for elements (and keys for attributes), instead of the - computationally expensive - XPath?" My reply was: It would be good to do that, but you can do it only if you have control over the whole data in the localization workflow. I heard a similar comment from Iris Orris (Microsoft) at the Unicode conference, but it seems to me this scenario works only for data inside big corporates. - Werner Donne gave a talk on "Managing Multilingual Legislation With XML", see http://xtech06.usefulinc.com/schedule/detail/17 . In his approach, he added "metadata" about versioning into XML documents. The meta data was used for alignment of EC documents. Werner said the ITS approach of global rules seems promising for such versioning, since it has no or limited impact on the document(s). One potential issue he saw (again, see Daniel above) was the computational cost of XPath for large documents.]] 10141 1 fsasaki 2006-06-20 05:16:26 +0000 Added Werner to the CC list. 10698 2 fsasaki 2006-07-24 12:38:03 +0000 Action: working group to discuss and reply. 10699 3 fsasaki 2006-07-24 12:40:04 +0000 Action: working group to discuss. 11095 4 ysavourel 2006-08-11 17:08:24 +0000 Proposed answer: ITS does not use directly ID-based mechansim because it tries to cover more general cases: not all XML format use IDs. ID-only is also quite limitative if one need to use conditions (e.g translate element X if its parent has an attribute Y with a value Z. XPath 1.0 and later provides ID function that can be used to work with IDs if needed (See an example in the comment #1 of the issue #3463: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3463#c1) The cost of using XPath is obviously an aspect we had in mind. But from the test implementation we have and from the functionality we tried, the benefits of using XPath seem to outweighs its drawbacks. 11401 5 fsasaki 2006-09-06 14:17:54 +0000 Closed. 12088 6 fsasaki 2006-09-27 12:38:16 +0000 Summary: The Working Group decided to decline the change. 12251 7 werner.donne 2006-10-03 09:37:55 +0000 Hi, The resolution of the Working Group is fine for me. Regards, Werner.