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    <bug>
          <bug_id>3318</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2006-06-07 05:54:51 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Clarify &quot;within text&quot; data category</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2006-10-03 14:56:29 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>ITS</product>
          <component>ITS tagset</component>
          <version>WorkingDraft</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Windows XP</op_sys>
          <bug_status>CLOSED</bug_status>
          <resolution>DUPLICATE</resolution>
          <dup_id>3495</dup_id>
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>proposalAccepted, reviewerSatisfied</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>AfterLC</target_milestone>
          <dependson>3495</dependson>
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Yves Savourel">ysavourel</assigned_to>
          
          
          <qa_contact name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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    <commentid>9955</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-06-07 05:54:51 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Comment from Michael Sperberg-McQueen at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0097.html :
[[The &quot;with text&quot; data category: Is it styling or text structure
oriented? I explained that the latter is the case. Some clarification
in the draft might be helpful (but is not mandatory).]]
See also Jerry Carter at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006AprJun/0183.html .</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>10312</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Sebastian Rahtz">sebastian.rahtz</who>
    <bug_when>2006-06-28 13:04:41 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Please note that my examples in the last comment
were not using the current naming :-{

However, that didnt affect the point, I hope.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>10427</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Yves Savourel">ysavourel</who>
    <bug_when>2006-07-08 13:15:08 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>The &quot;Elements within text&quot; data category is text structure-oriented.
We need to clarify the definition:

Current text (http://www.w3.org/TR/its/#within-text-definition):

&quot;The data category elements within text expresses information about how elements should affect the flow of the content. In this context the flow of the content represents how the nodes of the elements should be treated as a single unit for linguistic purposes. Sometimes, a flow can be nested within another one. The values associated with this data category are:&quot;

Proposed text:

&quot;The data category elements within text expresses information about how text parts that go together from a linguistic viewpoint (e.g. sentences, or paragraphs) are affected by elements. For example, the content of the &lt;strong&gt; element in XHTML should not be separated from the text of its parent element, in the other hand the content of the &lt;fn&gt; element in DITA is independent from the content of its parent element. The values associated with this data category are:&quot;



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    <commentid>10431</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-07-08 23:19:52 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #2)
Would be fine with me. See minor editorial change proposal below.

&gt; The &quot;Elements within text&quot; data category is text structure-oriented.
&gt; We need to clarify the definition:
&gt; 
&gt; Current text (http://www.w3.org/TR/its/#within-text-definition):
&gt; 
&gt; &quot;The data category elements within text expresses information about how
&gt; elements should affect the flow of the content. In this context the flow of the
&gt; content represents how the nodes of the elements should be treated as a single
&gt; unit for linguistic purposes. Sometimes, a flow can be nested within another
&gt; one. The values associated with this data category are:&quot;
&gt; 
&gt; Proposed text:
&gt; 
&gt; &quot;The data category elements within text expresses information about how text
&gt; parts that go together from a linguistic viewpoint (e.g. sentences, or
&gt; paragraphs) are affected by elements. For example, the content of the &lt;strong&gt;
&gt; element in XHTML should not be separated from the text of its parent element,
&gt; in the other hand the content of the &lt;fn&gt; element in DITA is independent from
&gt; the content of its parent element. The values associated with this data
&gt; category are:&quot;
&gt; 
&quot;of its parent element, in the other hand&quot; -&gt; &quot;of its parent element. On the other hand&quot;

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  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>10696</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-07-24 12:35:36 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Action: working group to discuss and reply.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>11201</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="Yves Savourel">ysavourel</who>
    <bug_when>2006-08-17 13:59:08 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3495 ***</thetext>
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    <commentid>12071</commentid>
    <comment_count>6</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-09-27 04:46:25 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Closed.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>12118</commentid>
    <comment_count>7</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-09-28 06:04:00 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Summary: This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 3495.</thetext>
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