3290 2006-05-17 01:59:22 +0000 Introduction too "positive" and not enough informative :) 2006-10-03 08:54:28 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified ITS ITS tagset LastCall All All CLOSED FIXED http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-its-20060414/#introduction proposalAccepted, reviewerSatisfied P2 normal AfterLC 1 karl christian.lieske fsasaki oldest_to_newest 9814 0 karl 2006-05-17 01:59:22 +0000 ITS says [[[ This document defines a standard for high-quality, cost efficient internationalization and localization of schemas and XML instances (both existing ones and new ones). ]]] We understand that it is the desires of the group but it doesn't mean that it will be true. (We wish it will be). Just define what is it but do not emphasize on the foreseen qualities ;) Same comment than the abstract as well. Tend to avoid "This document", "The document", just write about the topic, it will be lighter to read. Again remove the reference to feedback, this is the status section not part of the introduction which is about the technology itself. Reading the first paragraph of Introduction, I still don't know what is it used for. Is there a possibility of writing in one or two sentences what is it used for in general use case? It is explained in 1.1 but could you make it one sentence in the first paragraph that will be then developed further in 1.1 Example: "The ITS specification aims to provide different types of users with information about what markup should be supported to enable worldwide use and effective localization of content. " Is very informatique and should be in the abstract and/or Introduction. nitpicking: use "…" and not "..." 10689 1 fsasaki 2006-07-24 11:50:29 +0000 Proposal for a resolution at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006JulSep/0068.html . Action: working group to discuss the proposal. 10718 2 fsasaki 2006-07-24 16:38:46 +0000 Discussed at http://www.w3.org/2006/07/24-i18nits-minutes.html#item03 . The working group approved the proposal at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006JulSep/0068.html (with one change: have no citation of [Yves]). Karl, would you be o.k. with the proposal? If we don't hear from you within two weeks, we regard the proposal as closed. Felix Wait: answer sent, wait respone. 10744 3 karl 2006-07-25 00:36:23 +0000 In the new proposal there is: "The ITS Working Group (ITS WG) has created a standard which makes it easier to create XML which is internationalized and can be localized effectively. On the one hand, the ITS WG identifies concepts (such as "directionality") which are important for i18n and l10n. On the other hand, the ITS WG defines implementations of these concepts (termed "ITS data categories") as a set of elements and attributes called the Internationalization Tag Set (ITS)." The way we would write this part of the text "ITS is a technology to easily create XML which is internationalized and can be localized effectively. reate XML which is internationalized and can be localized effectively. On the one hand, the ITS specification identifies concepts (such as "directionality") which are important for i18n and l10n. On the other hand, the ITS specification defines implementations of these concepts (termed "ITS data categories") as a set of elements and attributes called the Internationalization Tag Set (ITS)." 10789 4 ysavourel 2006-07-25 14:39:27 +0000 I like Karl changes too. But I would change "i18n" and "l10n" to "internationalization" and "localization" (I missed that in Christian text early on). I think those abbriviation are ok in filenames and reference markers, but not in normal text. 10790 5 christian.lieske 2006-07-25 15:14:17 +0000 Hi Karl and Yves, Thanks for the constructive feedback. Here's what I end up with in my attempt to include both: "ITS is a technology to easily create XML which is internationalized and can be localized effectively. On the one hand, the ITS specification identifies concepts (such as "directionality") which are important for internationalization and localization. On the other hand, the ITS specification defines implementations of these concepts (termed "ITS data categories") as a set of elements and attributes called the Internationalization Tag Set (ITS)." Does this address your concerns? Cheers Christian 11194 6 christian.lieske 2006-08-17 09:51:49 +0000 Comment has been implemented 11397 7 fsasaki 2006-09-06 14:09:38 +0000 Closed. Commentor satisified. 12083 8 fsasaki 2006-09-27 12:33:24 +0000 Summary: The Working Group agreed with the proposal and clarified the introduction.