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    <bug>
          <bug_id>3057</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2006-03-29 06:09:48 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Proposal for grouping rules</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2006-07-24 10:34:05 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>ITS</product>
          <component>ITS tagset</component>
          <version>WorkingDraft</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Windows XP</op_sys>
          <bug_status>CLOSED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</assigned_to>
          
          
          <qa_contact name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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          <long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>8937</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-03-29 06:09:48 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>See http://www.w3.org/2006/03/15-i18nits-minutes.html#grouping-proposal .</thetext>
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    <commentid>8938</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Christian Lieske">christian.lieske</who>
    <bug_when>2006-03-29 06:26:43 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>From my understanding, we did not really discuss &quot;grouping rules&quot;. Rather, we were wondering how we could succinctly give information which pertains to more than one data category.

Example:

Say that all &quot;t&quot; elements should not be translated, and are &quot;term&quot; elements in the ITS sense.</thetext>
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    <commentid>8939</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-03-29 06:46:04 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #1)
&gt; From my understanding, we did not really discuss &quot;grouping rules&quot;. Rather, we
&gt; were wondering how we could succinctly give information which pertains to more
&gt; than one data category.
&gt; 
&gt; Example:
&gt; 
&gt; Say that all &quot;t&quot; elements should not be translated, and are &quot;term&quot; elements in
&gt; the ITS sense.
&gt; 

Do you have a proposal on how to reword what is currently in this bug and in sec.

http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset-diff-20060222.html#selection-global (see ed. note)? </thetext>
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    <commentid>8940</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Sebastian Rahtz">sebastian.rahtz</who>
    <bug_when>2006-03-29 08:11:56 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Achieveing succinctness of rules by allowing grouping does not seem to me to be a very high priority. Can&apos;t this wait for version 2? the downside of a simple
procedure is that if you say

 &lt;ruleGrp selector=&quot;//term&quot;&gt;
   &lt;translateRule translate=&quot;yes&quot;/&gt;
   &lt;termRule term=&quot;yes&quot;/&gt;
 &lt;/ruleGrp&gt;

you have to make @selector on &lt;translate&gt; optional, which
weakens the validation. But if that isnt a bother, then the
syntax above would work, and be pretty easy to implement.</thetext>
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    <commentid>8941</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-03-29 08:26:55 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #3)
&gt; Achieveing succinctness of rules by allowing grouping does not seem to me to be
&gt; a very high priority. Can&apos;t this wait for version 2? 

would be fine with me :) . Anyway, we have now only &quot;asking for feedback&quot; in the draft.

&gt; the downside of a simple
&gt; procedure is that if you say
&gt; 
&gt;  &lt;ruleGrp selector=&quot;//term&quot;&gt;
&gt;    &lt;translateRule translate=&quot;yes&quot;/&gt;
&gt;    &lt;termRule term=&quot;yes&quot;/&gt;
&gt;  &lt;/ruleGrp&gt;
&gt; 
&gt; you have to make @selector on &lt;translate&gt; optional, which
&gt; weakens the validation. But if that isnt a bother, 

it would bother me, since it means that for an edge (possibly &quot;2.0&quot; case) one would add complexity / the drawback of weakened validation to the core case. /me always bringing the same arguments ...

&gt; then the
&gt; syntax above would work, and be pretty easy to implement.
&gt; </thetext>
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    <commentid>9340</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-04-20 08:21:46 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>closed after discussion at http://www.w3.org/2006/04/18-i18nits-minutes.html#item08 , waiting for feedback from outside</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>10681</commentid>
    <comment_count>6</comment_count>
    <who name="Felix Sasaki">fsasaki</who>
    <bug_when>2006-07-24 10:34:05 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Closed, no further action necessary.</thetext>
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