28751 2015-06-04 10:30:34 +0000 should img alt="" be mapped to role=presentation? 2018-05-03 21:11:45 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified ARIA HTML AAM 1.1 PC Windows NT RESOLVED NEEDSINFO P2 normal --- 1 faulkner.steve faulkner.steve dmazzoni faulkner.steve jason jcraig lwatson mike mzehe public-html-admin public-html-wg-issue-tracking schwer surkov.alexander w3cbugzilla oldest_to_newest 120691 0 faulkner.steve 2015-06-04 10:30:34 +0000 +++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #26149 +++ The HTML spec[1] requires an img element with an empty alt (alt="") to be mapped to role=presentation[3] Firefox/IE/Chrome does not currently implement this (webkit does)[2] [1]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/dom.html#sec-strong-native-semantics [2]http://stevefaulkner.github.io/html-mapping-tests/ [3] effect of role=presentation http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-implementation/#mapping_general from bug opened on firefox there is pushback https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1027018 120693 1 faulkner.steve 2015-06-04 10:33:46 +0000 *** Bug 26149 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** 120695 2 surkov.alexander 2015-06-04 11:19:27 +0000 imo that'd be confusing since img@alt="" and role="presentation have different mappings into accessibility API. 120699 3 mzehe 2015-06-04 13:13:20 +0000 The *intention* of img @alt="" is to mark an image as presentational. So I am, in principle, fine with mapping this to a role "presentation", effectively taking the image out of the accessible tree. The only thing I subjected to in the very old Mozilla bug 485181 was what happens if an img is present, but has no alt attribute at all. Those should *not* be marked as presentational, since they may be important, but subject to authoring error. Screen readers should be able to do something with these. 129188 4 w3cbugzilla 2018-05-03 21:11:45 +0000 Steve - please move somewhere else if this is still an issue.