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    <bug>
          <bug_id>27309</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2014-11-12 01:39:56 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>hello, hgroup does it exist or not?</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2014-11-13 12:15:45 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>WHATWG</product>
          <component>HTML</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>Other</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>other</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>WORKSFORME</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc>https://html.spec.whatwg.org/#the-hgroup-element</bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P3</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>Unsorted</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter>contributor</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</assigned_to>
          <cc>faulkner.steve</cc>
    
    <cc>ian</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>zcorpan</cc>
          
          <qa_contact>contributor</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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    <commentid>114819</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="">contributor</who>
    <bug_when>2014-11-12 01:39:56 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Specification: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/semantics.html
Multipage: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/#the-hgroup-element
Complete: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/#the-hgroup-element
Referrer: https://www.google.de/

Comment:
hello, hgroup does it exist or not?

Posted from: 77.187.107.184 by senol.veli@gmail.com
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/38.0.2125.111 Safari/537.36</thetext>
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    <commentid>114832</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Simon Pieters">zcorpan</who>
    <bug_when>2014-11-12 09:19:35 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>WHATWG decided that it does, W3C HTML WG decided that it does not.</thetext>
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    <commentid>114833</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</who>
    <bug_when>2014-11-12 09:51:36 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to Simon Pieters from comment #1)
&gt; WHATWG decided that it does, W3C HTML WG decided that it does not.

Sort of true, W3C HTML decided that it did not meet the high bar required to add a feature to HTML. There is no doubt it exists, but hgroup is obsolete in W3C HTML, like the &lt;font&gt; element and a host of other HTML feature[1] detritus.


[1] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/obsolete.html#obsolete</thetext>
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    <commentid>114857</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2014-11-12 19:13:23 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>So to answer the original question, yes, it exists.

Another way to look at it is that it&apos;s one of the many features and bug fixes that the WHATWG has added to HTML above and beyond what the W3C has published in their stale snapshot.</thetext>
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    <commentid>114888</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</who>
    <bug_when>2014-11-13 12:15:45 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson from comment #3)
&gt; So to answer the original question, yes, it exists.
&gt; 
&gt; Another way to look at it is that it&apos;s one of the many features and bug
&gt; fixes that the WHATWG has added to HTML above and beyond what the W3C has
&gt; published in their stale snapshot.

We continue to develop HTML at the W3C alongside whatwg&apos;s work, hgroup was introduced while you were editor of HTML at W3C, your suggested addition was reviewed, discussed and found to be suboptimal, and consequently obsoleted. We would obviously reconsider such a feature if it was designed a way that was actually useful to users and developers.</thetext>
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