25733 2014-05-15 19:37:32 +0000 Add reference to external "Sourcing In-band Media Resource Tracks from Media Containers into HTML" spec 2014-07-21 19:42:17 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified HTML WG CR HTML5 spec unspecified PC All RESOLVED FIXED P2 normal --- 25581 1 b.lund rubys acolwell cyril.concolato plh public-html-admin robin rubys silviapfeiffer1 public-html-bugzilla oldest_to_newest 106077 0 b.lund 2014-05-15 19:37:32 +0000 There has been discussion in bugs [1][2][3][4] about creating a specification for sourcing in-band tracks in media resources. This bug proposes the following steps to effect this change. 1) A proposal was made to public-html-admin [5] as a first step in creating an HTML WG Note based on “Sourcing In-band Media Resource Tracks” [6]. 2) An informative reference to this WG Note, e.g. [INBANDTRACK] would be added to the HTML 5.0 spec. 3) Language would be added to HTML 5 Sourcing in-band text tracks [7][8], e.g. “The sourcing in-band tracks specification [INBANDTRACK] provides guidelines for the creation of video, audio and text tracks and their attribute values as mapped from in-band tracks in media resource types typically supported by User Agents. Implementations are encouraged to include guidelines in this specification for media resource types they support to facilitate interoperability. The sourcing in-band tracks specification [INBANDTRACK] is the authoritative reference for sourcing in-band track guidelines. An implementation that supports a resource type listed in the sourcing specification must conform to the specification guidelines for that media resource type.” 4) Existing text in [7][8] could be changed to refer to [INBANDTRACK] 5) The HTML5 AudioTrackList and VideoTrackList Objects sections [9][10] should also refer to [INBANDTRACK] for setting audio/video id, kind, label and language [1] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25132 [2] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25133 [3] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24986 [4] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24997 [5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014May/0029.html [6] http://rawgit.com/silviapfeiffer/HTMLSourcingInbandTracks/master/index.html [7] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/embedded-content-0.html#sourcing-in-band-text-tracks [8] http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/the-video-element.html#sourcing-in-band-text-tracks [9] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/embedded-content-0.html#audiotracklist-and-videotracklist-objects [10] http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/the-video-element.html#audiotracklist-and-videotracklist-objects 106079 1 b.lund 2014-05-15 19:38:03 +0000 *** Bug 25732 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** 107091 2 silviapfeiffer1 2014-06-01 04:13:04 +0000 I'll take care of this as soon as the WG has a permanent URL for this spec. 107417 3 silviapfeiffer1 2014-06-06 04:47:43 +0000 EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the Editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the Tracker Issue; or you may create a Tracker Issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document: http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html Status: Accepted Change Description: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/c3a32873e10c45fc948541ca229914d4cf07cdee Rationale: Added for bug 24997 107957 4 rubys 2014-06-17 17:39:29 +0000 After discussing this with PLH, the chairs are reopening this bug pending a discussion with the Director. The concern is specs referenced by this registry containing normative statements and not being published in accordance with the W3C's IPR policy. PLH intends to schedule this during HTML5's last call period. The chairs support the need for a light weight process here. 107973 5 silviapfeiffer1 2014-06-17 23:37:37 +0000 Please note that the "Sourcing In-band Media Resource Tracks from Media Containers into HTML" spec is only referenced as "(Non-normative)" in the HTML spec. Therefore, it should not matter to the HTML spec. However, it will matter to how the "Sourcing In-band Media Resource Tracks from Media Containers into HTML" itself will be published. Looking forward to the advice. 109001 6 plh 2014-07-16 12:11:01 +0000 As long as The Group is fine with making informative statements and having the informative reference, we're fine. As a side note, publishing the registry in the dated space of W3C isn't ideal since it doesn't take the update automatic. I'm open to alternative approaches on that front. 109051 7 robin 2014-07-17 10:17:37 +0000 (In reply to Philippe Le Hegaret from comment #6) > As long as The Group is fine with making informative statements and having > the informative reference, we're fine. My understanding is that there is no objection to this. > As a side note, publishing the registry in the dated space of W3C isn't > ideal since it doesn't take the update automatic. I'm open to alternative > approaches on that front. I'm not sure what you mean by making the update automatic. Do you mean making it so that the editors can write there? Unless I'm mistaken, that's in fact possible — or at least we used to do it. Alternatively, these could also be on dev.w3, dvcs.w3, etc. 109140 8 rubys 2014-07-21 19:42:17 +0000 As there are no objections to the original fix, I'm returning this to RESOLVED FIXED.