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    <bug>
          <bug_id>2505</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2005-11-11 02:40:54 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>RQ-145 Add a &quot;value&quot; PSVI property</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2009-04-21 19:21:41 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>XML Schema</product>
          <component>Structures: XSD Part 1</component>
          <version>1.1 only</version>
          <rep_platform>All</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>CLOSED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-schema-ig/2003Oct/0106.html</bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard>medium, work</status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>resolved</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Sandy Gao">sandygao</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="C. M. Sperberg-McQueen">cmsmcq</assigned_to>
          
          
          <qa_contact name="XML Schema comments list">www-xml-schema-comments</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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    <commentid>7155</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Sandy Gao">sandygao</who>
    <bug_when>2005-11-11 02:40:56 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Add a [value] property to the PSVI for attributes and for elements validated 
with simple content. This candidate requirement is facilitated by RQ-144, as we 
make clear that the [value] property need be computed only if needed.

With a [value] property, we can also suggest to Query that they augment the 
famously vague Data Model stipulation that:

&quot;In the general case, dm:typed-value constructs a sequence of atomic values. 
These values are derived from the string-value of the element and its type, in 
such a way as to be consistent with validation.&quot;

Instead, or in addition one could put into their PSVI-to-DM mapping:

&quot;string-value (unchanged)

The [schema normalized value] PSVI property if that exists, or the [normalized 
value] property.

typed-value (new)

The [value] PSVI property (reference to new PSVI property) 

See mail: from Noah Mendelsohn (see the URL field above)</thetext>
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    <commentid>7156</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Sandy Gao">sandygao</who>
    <bug_when>2005-11-11 02:41:58 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>In its meeting of 2004-03-12 [1], the Working Group decided (Henry Thompson 
dissenting) to classify this item as Non-goal.

This item was discussed in the meeting of 2004-05-13 [2].

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-schema-ig/2004Mar/0033.html
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/05/xml-schema-ftf-minutes.html</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>8726</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="C. M. Sperberg-McQueen">cmsmcq</who>
    <bug_when>2006-03-15 01:23:16 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>The Working Group took this up again and discussed it on the
telcon of 17 February 2006.  There was not consensus that the
proposed {value} property should be added, but there was
a consensus that further discussion in the absence of a
concrete proposal was unlikely to benefit the Working Group.
Accordingly, the Working Group asked the editors to draft 
wording for the proposed addition, so that the Working Group 
could examine a concrete proposal and make its decision 
informed by that examination.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>12364</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="C. M. Sperberg-McQueen">cmsmcq</who>
    <bug_when>2006-10-09 21:09:59 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>On 6 October 2006, the Working Group approved a proposal to add
a [schema actual value] property to attributes and elements.  The
approved wording now appears in the status quo version of the
spec and will be included in the next public working draft.

Accordingly, I&apos;m marking this RESOLVED / FIXED.  Sandy, I believe
you were the originator of this issue; if you were, and if you are
satisfied with the resolution, please close the issue.
</thetext>
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