25019 2014-03-12 14:55:15 +0000 Be explicit about "When a media element is created, if it has a muted attribute specified" 2014-05-02 09:30:03 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified WHATWG HTML unspecified Other other RESOLVED FIXED http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#user-interface P3 normal Unsorted 1 contributor ian ian mike philipj silviapfeiffer1 contributor oldest_to_newest 102240 0 contributor 2014-03-12 14:55:15 +0000 Specification: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/the-video-element.html Multipage: http://www.whatwg.org/C#user-interface Complete: http://www.whatwg.org/c#user-interface Referrer: Comment: Be explicit about "When a media element is created" Posted from: 58.187.24.192 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_9_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/33.0.1750.117 Safari/537.36 OPR/20.0.1387.59 (Edition Next) 102241 1 philipj 2014-03-12 14:57:32 +0000 The spec isn't as explicit as it could be about when the muted IDL attribute is set when the muted content attribute is present: https://github.com/foolip/web-platform-tests/commit/83fa234dcada084bd23fffd6a3b94144f1d2bb7f#commitcomment-5645539 102242 2 philipj 2014-03-12 15:00:30 +0000 Instead of "the user agent must mute the media element's audio output, overriding any user preference." say "the user agent must set the muted (IDL) attribute" I guess the reason it doesn't already say this is because the result looks like nonsense unless you understand that there are two muted attributes... 104933 3 ian 2014-05-01 21:44:24 +0000 This is purely editorial, right? (There's normative changes proposed in bug 25153 and bug 25460, of course.) I've tried to clean up the current text without making changes for now. Reopen the bug if it's still not clear. 104934 4 contributor 2014-05-01 21:44:39 +0000 Checked in as WHATWG revision r8596. Check-in comment: Reword the muted/volume logic. This shouldn't have a normative effect, but should be easier to read, and should make potential future changes easier to make. http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=8595&to=8596 104956 5 philipj 2014-05-02 09:30:03 +0000 Yes, this was editorial. I've reviewed the diff and think it's a big improvement, with a muted concept that is separate from the IDL and content attributes.