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    <bug>
          <bug_id>24064</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2013-12-11 20:00:14 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>TextTrackCue broken in the 6 Aug 2013 HTML5 CR spec</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2014-01-28 16:57:31 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>HTML5 spec</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>CLOSED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>CR</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Bob Lund">b.lund</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Silvia Pfeiffer">silviapfeiffer1</assigned_to>
          <cc>b.lund</cc>
    
    <cc>glenn</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>philipj</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-wg-issue-tracking</cc>
          
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          <comment_sort_order>oldest_to_newest</comment_sort_order>  
          <long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>97467</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Bob Lund">b.lund</who>
    <bug_when>2013-12-11 20:00:14 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>The TextTrackCue definition in [1] has removed the &apos;text&apos; attribute and the getCueAsHTML() method that were present in the previous Dec 17, 2012 CR [2]. This makes it impossible for script to access the contents of TextTrackCues. This could be fixed in one of two ways: 1) revert [1] back to [2], 2) pull the DataCue introduced in HTML 5.1 [3] into [1].


[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/embedded-content-0.html#texttrackcue
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/CR-html5-20121217/embedded-content-0.html#texttrackcue
[3] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/embedded-content-0.html#text-tracks-exposing-in-band-metadata</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>97468</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Glenn Adams">glenn</who>
    <bug_when>2013-12-11 20:07:31 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Cox prefers the second option: adding DataCue to HTML5 CR.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>97534</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Philip Jägenstedt">philipj</who>
    <bug_when>2013-12-12 21:12:41 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>All TextTrackCue instances will now always use some more specific child interface, so you can still access the &apos;text&apos; attribute where it exists.

Adding DataCue doesn&apos;t seem related, since most cues won&apos;t be DataCues...</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>97555</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Bob Lund">b.lund</who>
    <bug_when>2013-12-12 23:52:23 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to Philip Jägenstedt from comment #2)
&gt; All TextTrackCue instances will now always use some more specific child
&gt; interface, so you can still access the &apos;text&apos; attribute where it exists.
&gt; 
&gt; Adding DataCue doesn&apos;t seem related, since most cues won&apos;t be DataCues...

DataCues are specified for in-band metadata TextTracks[5].

[5] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/embedded-content-0.html#text-tracks-exposing-in-band-metadata</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>98979</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Silvia Pfeiffer">silviapfeiffer1</who>
    <bug_when>2014-01-24 05:45:40 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are
satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If
you have additional information and would like the Editor to reconsider, please
reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML
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   http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

Status: Accepted
Change: Backported DataCue to HTML 5.0

Rationale:

The current CR http://htmlwg.org/heartbeat/CR-html5-20140130/ has a DataCue with a constructor at http://htmlwg.org/heartbeat/CR-html5-20140130/embedded-content-0.html#datacue .</thetext>
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    <commentid>99001</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="Glenn Adams">glenn</who>
    <bug_when>2014-01-24 12:03:37 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to Silvia Pfeiffer from comment #4)
&gt; EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are
&gt; satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED.
&gt; If
&gt; you have additional information and would like the Editor to reconsider,
&gt; please
&gt; reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML
&gt; Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest
&gt; title and text for the Tracker Issue; or you may create a Tracker Issue
&gt; yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
&gt; 
&gt;    http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html
&gt; 
&gt; Status: Accepted
&gt; Change: Backported DataCue to HTML 5.0
&gt; 
&gt; Rationale:
&gt; 
&gt; The current CR http://htmlwg.org/heartbeat/CR-html5-20140130/ has a DataCue
&gt; with a constructor at
&gt; http://htmlwg.org/heartbeat/CR-html5-20140130/embedded-content-0.
&gt; html#datacue .

What does it mean to refer to a WHATWG version as &quot;the current CR&quot;?</thetext>
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    <commentid>99072</commentid>
    <comment_count>6</comment_count>
    <who name="Silvia Pfeiffer">silviapfeiffer1</who>
    <bug_when>2014-01-25 06:04:08 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to Glenn Adams from comment #5)
&gt; (In reply to Silvia Pfeiffer from comment #4)
&gt;
&gt; &gt; The current CR http://htmlwg.org/heartbeat/CR-html5-20140130/ has a DataCue
&gt; &gt; with a constructor at
&gt; &gt; http://htmlwg.org/heartbeat/CR-html5-20140130/embedded-content-0.
&gt; &gt; html#datacue .
&gt; 
&gt; What does it mean to refer to a WHATWG version as &quot;the current CR&quot;?

I think you misread. It says HTMLWG.org and it&apos;s the current CR candidate of the W3C HTML WG.</thetext>
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    <commentid>99074</commentid>
    <comment_count>7</comment_count>
    <who name="Glenn Adams">glenn</who>
    <bug_when>2014-01-25 06:21:27 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to Silvia Pfeiffer from comment #6)
&gt; (In reply to Glenn Adams from comment #5)
&gt; &gt; (In reply to Silvia Pfeiffer from comment #4)
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; The current CR http://htmlwg.org/heartbeat/CR-html5-20140130/ has a DataCue
&gt; &gt; &gt; with a constructor at
&gt; &gt; &gt; http://htmlwg.org/heartbeat/CR-html5-20140130/embedded-content-0.
&gt; &gt; &gt; html#datacue .
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; What does it mean to refer to a WHATWG version as &quot;the current CR&quot;?
&gt; 
&gt; I think you misread. It says HTMLWG.org and it&apos;s the current CR candidate of
&gt; the W3C HTML WG.

Ah, thanks. Though I have to wonder what publishing a CR on a non-W3C site means. Perhaps it is just an ED of a CR being staged for publishing on TR?</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>99075</commentid>
    <comment_count>8</comment_count>
    <who name="Silvia Pfeiffer">silviapfeiffer1</who>
    <bug_when>2014-01-25 06:26:20 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to Glenn Adams from comment #7)
&gt; (In reply to Silvia Pfeiffer from comment #6)
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; I think you misread. It says HTMLWG.org and it&apos;s the current CR candidate of
&gt; &gt; the W3C HTML WG.
&gt; 
&gt; Ah, thanks. Though I have to wonder what publishing a CR on a non-W3C site
&gt; means. Perhaps it is just an ED of a CR being staged for publishing on TR?

It&apos;s a CR *candidate* and it has been announced on the html-admin list. It will eventually replace the current CR on TR.</thetext>
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