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    <bug>
          <bug_id>23884</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2013-11-21 15:52:04 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Rename &quot;incumbent settings object&quot; to something less jargon-y</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2014-01-02 23:13:52 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>WHATWG</product>
          <component>HTML</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Linux</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>NEEDSINFO</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>Unsorted</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Olli Pettay">bugs</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</assigned_to>
          <cc>bobbyholley</cc>
    
    <cc>bzbarsky</cc>
    
    <cc>ian</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
          
          <qa_contact>contributor</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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    <commentid>96640</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Olli Pettay">bugs</who>
    <bug_when>2013-11-21 15:52:04 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>&quot;incumbent settings object&quot; is rather hard to parse, and doesn&apos;t in its
name indicate what kind of object it is about.

Could it be called something like &quot;effective caller&quot; or
&quot;effective script context&quot;.

(I&apos;d probably rename &quot;script settings object&quot; to &quot;script context&quot;)</thetext>
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    <commentid>96655</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2013-11-21 19:41:29 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>&quot;incumbent&quot; means &quot;currently holding office&quot;.
&quot;settings object&quot; seems self-explanatory.

It&apos;s the &quot;settings object currently holding office&quot;.

This seems accurate. Why is it hard to parse?

The problem with &quot;effective&quot; is that it is confusing given the existence of &quot;effective script origin&quot;, which I think is a more precise use of the word &quot;effective&quot; (as in, &quot;fulfilling a specified function in fact, though not formally acknowledged as such&quot;, in contrast to the &quot;real&quot; origin). The problem with &quot;context&quot; is that we use the term almost 2000 times already, so it&apos;s getting a bit overused. &quot;Caller&quot; is ambiguous because there might not be a caller involved. Even &quot;script&quot; is a bit dubious since I expect I&apos;ll be starting to use this in other contexts in due course.

I agree that the terminology is a bit of a mess, though. I just don&apos;t know what would be better.</thetext>
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    <commentid>96666</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Bobby Holley (:bholley)">bobbyholley</who>
    <bug_when>2013-11-21 21:39:44 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>FWIW, I think &apos;incumbent&apos; is a great name for this concept, and does a great job of differentiating it from the other possibilities (incumbent script vs entry script).

Script Settings is a little weird, but I don&apos;t have a great alternative.</thetext>
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    <commentid>97938</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2014-01-02 20:53:14 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>I&apos;m closing this give the lack of proposals and the failure of my imagination to come up with any better ones, however, if anyone has a concrete proposal for how to improve these terms, please do reopen the bug.</thetext>
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