22372 2013-06-15 04:43:20 +0000 validator claims 'document type does not allow element "UL" here', but I think HTML 4.01 Transitional does; or else HTML 4.01 Specification is unclear 2015-02-16 00:38:40 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified Validator Parser 1.3 PC Linux NEW http://www.plam.cantech.bg P2 minor --- 1 jrowens.w3 dave.null plam www-validator-cvs oldest_to_newest 89344 0 jrowens.w3 2013-06-15 04:43:20 +0000 Test case: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhtdr.e-junkie.com%2Fadmin%2Ffieldset_test.php&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&ss=1&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.3+http%3A%2F%2Fvalidator.w3.org%2Fservices If Bugzilla has a problem with the URL more than a line long, shortened: http://tinyurl.com/lekusql http://preview.tinyurl.com/lekusql if you're paranoid This is the pretty bare-bones test case here. A fieldset within a form, and an unordered list within the fieldset. The Validator tells me 'document type does not allow element "UL" here'. If I enable a legend element in it (currently commented out) before the UL, it validates. But in the HTML 4.01 Transitional (which that page is) DTD: <!-- #PCDATA is to solve the mixed content problem, per specification only whitespace is allowed there! --> <!ELEMENT FIELDSET - - (#PCDATA,LEGEND,(%flow;)*) -- form control group --> <!ATTLIST FIELDSET %attrs; -- %coreattrs, %i18n, %events -- > <!ELEMENT LEGEND - - (%inline;)* -- fieldset legend --> <!ATTLIST LEGEND %attrs; -- %coreattrs, %i18n, %events -- accesskey %Character; #IMPLIED -- accessibility key character -- > I've forgotten a thing or two about reading DTDs; is the LEGEND there supposed to be mandatory? If not, then it would seem to be a Validator bug. If it is mandatory, there are at least two other things that would need fixing. The Nu Validator does validate this page: http://validator.w3.org/nu/?showsource=yes&doc=http%3A%2F%2Fhtdr.e-junkie.com%2Fadmin%2Fsimple_test_html.php (perhaps a difference between DTD & Schema?) and, the HTML 4.01 Specification, http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#h-17.10 , says nothing about requiring a LEGEND in each FIELDSET (aside from quoting the DTD as above), and furthermore says, "[t]he LEGEND element allows authors to assign a caption to a FIELDSET," where "allows" seems to imply that it isn't mandatory. 89346 1 jrowens.w3 2013-06-15 04:56:39 +0000 I forgot to mention the other possibility I was considering, that I'm not understanding %flow; in the DTD correctly. It looks as though %flow; can be either %block; or %inline;, and %block; can be %list; among others, and %list; can be either UL or OL, of course. But like I said, I've forgotten plenty about reading DTDs.