21983 2013-05-09 15:06:35 +0000 Remove BarProp and its uses 2014-05-16 00:01:26 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified WHATWG HTML unspecified All All RESOLVED WONTFIX http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#browser-interface-elements P4 normal Needs Impl Interest 1 erik.arvidsson ian annevk ian mike w3c contributor oldest_to_newest 87491 0 erik.arvidsson 2013-05-09 15:06:35 +0000 The following properties were added by Netscape 4 and got partially implemented by WebKit. In WebKit the visible property is readonly and in Chrome these return true at all times. window.locationbar window.menubar window.personalbar window.scrollbars window.statusbar window.toolbar These were never implemented by IE nor Opera which proves that they are not needed on the open web. 87514 1 erik.arvidsson 2013-05-09 20:59:12 +0000 Actually, these do reflect the params passed to window.open. I would still like us to remove these ;-) 87515 2 annevk 2013-05-09 21:21:14 +0000 I guess we should experiment with removing them from browsers first. 88311 3 ian 2013-05-28 22:15:04 +0000 Yeah, if you want to remove them please be my guest. I'd be more than happy to drop them from the spec, but I am reluctant to remove them first. I prefer to have things in the spec that aren't strictly needed than have the spec missing things that are. :-) 95037 4 ian 2013-10-21 20:47:57 +0000 Anyone had any luck removing these? (arv? anne?) 95040 5 erik.arvidsson 2013-10-21 20:55:46 +0000 I have nothing new to report. I'll add a usage counter for them so we will get some data eventually. 106110 6 ian 2014-05-15 22:45:24 +0000 arv, did you end up getting any data from the usage counters? 106123 7 erik.arvidsson 2014-05-16 00:01:26 +0000 These are really high :'( http://www.chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/popularity Doesn't seem like we can remove them any time soon.