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          <bug_id>21896</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2013-05-01 21:38:03 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Require non-empty URL for @cite, and let empty @cite (like empty @src) be without effect</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2013-06-11 11:46:10 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>HTML5 spec</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>WONTFIX</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc>http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/grouping-content.html#attr-blockquote-cite</bug_file_loc>
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          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Leif Halvard Silli">xn--mlform-iua</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Robin Berjon">robin</assigned_to>
          <cc>mike</cc>
    
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    <commentid>87129</commentid>
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    <who name="Leif Halvard Silli">xn--mlform-iua</who>
    <bug_when>2013-05-01 21:38:03 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>+++ A HTMLwg clone of the WHATwg Bug #21895 +++

(Initial) discussion:

http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2013-May/039491.html

PROBLEM:

* The meaning of an empty citation link, is unclear.
* It also seems to have no use case.

PROPOSAL:

* Require non-empty URL for @cite attribute (of q, blockquote, ins, or del)
* Let empty @cite (like empty @src) be without effect

* Alternatively: Define clearly what the meaning of an empty @cite is and how it should be handled.

JUSTIFICTION:

* There is now a presedence for how HTML handles empty @src
* There seems to be no use case for empty @cite.
* For a use, or script, to follow an empty citation link, would only be confusing.

Btw, if possible, @cite and @longdesc ought to work the same way in these details. Thus let me mention that for longdesc then:

* implementations ignore @longdesc when empty. [1]
* proposal is that @longdesc spec blesses that behavior [1]

[1] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21778</thetext>
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    <commentid>89070</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Robin Berjon">robin</who>
    <bug_when>2013-06-11 11:46:10 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are
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Status: Accepted
Change Description: none
Rationale:

This is already specified (&quot;If the cite attribute is present, it must be a valid URL potentially surrounded by spaces. To obtain the corresponding citation link, the value of the attribute must be resolved relative to the element.&quot;).</thetext>
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