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    <bug>
          <bug_id>2167</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2005-09-14 18:03:29 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>R-170: Inconsistent use of the term &quot;derived&quot;</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2009-04-21 19:25:06 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>XML Schema</product>
          <component>Structures: XSD Part 1</component>
          <version>1.0 only</version>
          <rep_platform>All</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>CLOSED</bug_status>
          <resolution>LATER</resolution>
          
          
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          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Sandy Gao">sandygao</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Henry S. Thompson">ht</assigned_to>
          
          
          <qa_contact name="XML Schema comments list">www-xml-schema-comments</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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    <commentid>6157</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Sandy Gao">sandygao</who>
    <bug_when>2005-09-14 18:03:29 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>XML Schema Part 1 (Structure) and XML Schema Part 2 (Datatypes) seem to have 
different notions of &quot;derived&quot; for simple types. 

According to Part1, setion 3.14.6, Schema Component Constraint: Type Derivation 
OK (Simple), type unions and list extensions are NOT &quot;derived&quot; from their 
respective member types (but their member types are regarded as &quot;derived&quot; from 
the union type resp. list extension). 

This is in contrast to Part 2, which defines union types and list extensions 
as &quot;derived&quot; from their respective member types (2.5.2.2 and 2.4.2.3). 

The inconsistent semantics of &quot;derived&quot; can lead to confusion among schema 
authors, in particular when working with substituion groups, instance type 
overriding, and redefinitions. 

We suggest to drop the term &quot;derived&quot; for type unions and list extensions in 
XML Schema Part 2 and to replace it with the term &quot;constructed&quot;. This would 
also affect the classification of the built-in types NMTOKENS, IDREFS, and 
ENTITIES, which are no longer &quot;derived by list&quot; but &quot;constructed by list&quot;. 

See:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-schema-comments/2002JulSep/0014.html

Ashok&apos;s response:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-schema-comments/2002JulSep/0022.html</thetext>
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    <commentid>6158</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Sandy Gao">sandygao</who>
    <bug_when>2005-09-14 18:03:56 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Discussed at the Sept. 27 concall. RESOLVED: to defer R-170 to 1.1. RQ-120.</thetext>
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