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    <bug>
          <bug_id>21563</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2013-04-03 09:46:46 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>remove hgroup from HTML spec</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2013-04-25 01:48:25 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>HTML5 spec</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>Windows NT</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>a11y, CR</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</assigned_to>
          <cc>faulkner.steve</cc>
    
    <cc>hans.hillen</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-wg-issue-tracking</cc>
    
    <cc>robin</cc>
          
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    <commentid>85476</commentid>
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    <who name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</who>
    <bug_when>2013-04-03 09:46:46 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>as per the chairs decision I plan to remove hgroup from the HTML5 spec.
It will be made non conforming, but the implemented parsing rules and user agent CSS rules will remain (as is usual for obsoleted) elements and add advice on how to mark up subheadings/subtitles and the like to 

I also plan to do the same as above for HTML 5.1. 

By doing this we can start with a level playing field and allow interested parties to gather data/define use cases/ do research and create extension specs for a feature for identifying subheadings, this may be a modified hgroup or something else or maybe nobody comes up with a good enough set of use cases/research/data to meet the high bar we should be setting for adding an element to HTML and we decide that providing advice on how to mark up subheadings with existing elements is appropriate.</thetext>
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    <commentid>85477</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</who>
    <bug_when>2013-04-03 09:47:59 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>&apos;..and the like to the common idioms section of the html spec http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/common-idioms.html#common-idioms</thetext>
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    <commentid>86759</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</who>
    <bug_when>2013-04-25 01:48:25 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>EDITOR&apos;S RESPONSE: This is an Editor&apos;s Response to your comment. If you are
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Status: accepted
Change Description: removed HGROUP
Rationale: lack of implementation, lack of use cases</thetext>
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