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    <bug>
          <bug_id>20861</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2013-02-04 13:44:02 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Should &lt;keygen&gt; be conforming-but-obsolete</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2015-06-17 03:12:46 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>HTML5 spec</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>WONTFIX</resolution>
          
          
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          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P3</priority>
          <bug_severity>editorial</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Robin Berjon">robin</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Robin Berjon">robin</assigned_to>
          <cc>hsivonen</cc>
    
    <cc>julian.reschke</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>mounir</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
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    <commentid>82517</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Robin Berjon">robin</who>
    <bug_when>2013-02-04 13:44:02 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>It would appear that &lt;keygen&gt; could be a good candidate for filing under that category as it seems clear that at least one browser plans to never have any useful behaviour for it (beyond the required parsing/DOM) so that I don&apos;t believe we ever want new content to be using it.</thetext>
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    <commentid>82518</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Julian Reschke">julian.reschke</who>
    <bug_when>2013-02-04 13:55:59 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>But that&apos;s because existomg code relies on the UA being *either* IE (-&gt; ActiveX) or having &lt;keygen&gt; support, no?</thetext>
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    <commentid>82519</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Robin Berjon">robin</who>
    <bug_when>2013-02-04 14:10:07 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #1)
&gt; But that&apos;s because existomg code relies on the UA being *either* IE (-&gt;
&gt; ActiveX) or having &lt;keygen&gt; support, no?

Right, but that changes nothing if the idea is that new content should not use it. Filing it as obsolete doesn&apos;t remove the existing support that relies on it, it just makes it clear that new stuff shouldn&apos;t use it.</thetext>
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    <commentid>82521</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="Julian Reschke">julian.reschke</who>
    <bug_when>2013-02-04 14:17:45 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>So does the spec tell authors what to use *instead*?

(/me no crypto expert, just wondering whether we made progress since this came up years ago)</thetext>
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    <commentid>82524</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael[tm] Smith">mike</who>
    <bug_when>2013-02-04 14:29:24 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #3)
&gt; So does the spec tell authors what to use *instead*?
&gt; 
&gt; (/me no crypto expert, just wondering whether we made progress since this
&gt; came up years ago)

Eventually, the Web Cryptography API https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcrypto-api/raw-file/tip/spec/Overview.html though at this point we need to get implemented in more UAs</thetext>
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    <commentid>82529</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="Henri Sivonen">hsivonen</who>
    <bug_when>2013-02-04 15:16:16 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>I came here to make the comments Julian already made.

(In reply to comment #4)
&gt; Eventually, the Web Cryptography API
&gt; https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcrypto-api/raw-file/tip/spec/Overview.html though
&gt; at this point we need to get implemented in more UAs

That doc says key provisioning is out of scope. &lt;keygen&gt; is used for CA enrollment processes.

I think we should not obsolete it without a replacement.</thetext>
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    <commentid>121153</commentid>
    <comment_count>6</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael[tm] Smith">mike</who>
    <bug_when>2015-06-17 03:12:46 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to Henri Sivonen from comment #5)
&gt; I came here to make the comments Julian already made.
&gt; 
&gt; (In reply to comment #4)
&gt; &gt; Eventually, the Web Cryptography API
&gt; &gt; https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcrypto-api/raw-file/tip/spec/Overview.html though
&gt; &gt; at this point we need to get implemented in more UAs
&gt; 
&gt; That doc says key provisioning is out of scope. &lt;keygen&gt; is used for CA
&gt; enrollment processes.
&gt; 
&gt; I think we should not obsolete it without a replacement.

Agreed, so moving this to resolved=wontfix.

There&apos;s been no new information on this in 2+ years and it does not seem important enough to merit being kept open for another N years with nothing happening. I can of course be re-opened if anything has changed.</thetext>
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