18915 2012-09-19 08:45:27 +0000 Encouraged cite attribute behavior is unlikely to be implemented and so should be dropped 2014-03-14 12:51:31 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified HTML WG HTML5 spec unspecified PC All RESOLVED FIXED P2 normal --- 18998 1 mjs eoconnor eoconnor faulkner.steve john mike public-html-a11y public-html-admin public-html-wg-issue-tracking robin silviapfeiffer1 public-html-bugzilla oldest_to_newest 74066 0 mjs 2012-09-19 08:45:27 +0000 The Rendering section, in subsection Links, Forms and Navigation <http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/rendering.html#links,-forms,-and-navigation> says: "User agents are expected to allow users to navigate browsing contexts to the resources indicated by the cite attributes on q, blockquote, ins, and del elements." As far as I can tell, mainstream UAs do not implement this, and I don't know of any planning to offer such behavior. Making these elements act as hyperlinks directly is likely to be incompatible with existing content, a context menu item is too obscure to be worth it, and out-of-line UI is likely not to merit space in the UI chrome. "expected" statements in the Rendering section are MUST-level conformance criteria for the "Visual user agents that support the suggested default rendering" conformance class: <http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/infrastructure.html#conformance-classes> Since this requirement is unlikely to be implemented, it should be dropped. Otherwise it is likely to be dropped in CR anyway. 74073 1 laura.lee.carlson 2012-09-19 17:05:22 +0000 The "cite" attribute is supported in iCab. The context menu has a "Show Cite of Element" listing. When it is selected it takes the user to the reference which is cited. 74466 2 eoconnor 2012-09-25 21:35:52 +0000 I've added a dependency on bug 18998, which is tracking the Decision Policy change that will define how we mark features as at-risk (& subsequently drop them). 74777 3 faulkner.steve 2012-09-28 10:42:25 +0000 (In reply to comment #0) > The Rendering section, in subsection Links, Forms and Navigation > <http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/rendering.html#links,-forms,-and-navigation> > says: > > "User agents are expected to allow users to navigate browsing contexts to the > resources indicated by the cite attributes on q, blockquote, ins, and del > elements." > > As far as I can tell, mainstream UAs do not implement this, and I don't know of > any planning to offer such behavior. Making these elements act as hyperlinks > directly is likely to be incompatible with existing content, a context menu > item is too obscure to be worth it, and out-of-line UI is likely not to merit > space in the UI chrome. > > "expected" statements in the Rendering section are MUST-level conformance > criteria for the "Visual user agents that support the suggested default > rendering" conformance class: > > <http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/infrastructure.html#conformance-classes> > > Since this requirement is unlikely to be implemented, it should be dropped. > Otherwise it is likely to be dropped in CR anyway. JAWS since version 4.5 has supported the announcement of cite attribute content. 75182 4 eoconnor 2012-10-03 01:13:46 +0000 EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the Editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the Tracker Issue; or you may create a Tracker Issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document: http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html Status: Rejected Change Description: No spec change. Rationale: I've captured the at-risk nature of this feature on the Wiki page we're using to track such things: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/HTML5.0AtRiskFeatures Resolving as REMIND; we'll revisit this during HTML5's CR period. 79631 5 silviapfeiffer1 2012-12-07 09:55:07 +0000 Note that I have just cherry-picked Ian's change for @cite from https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/326736176d5986b2385e07259b655b31edbc77f2 into the HTML5.1 ED. He added a sentence saying: <p>This value <span class="impl">may be shown to the user, but it</span> is primarily intended for private use.</p> This has not been changed in HTML5. The resolution should both include what to do for HTML5 and what for the next version. 102370 6 robin 2014-03-14 12:51:31 +0000 EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the Editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the Tracker Issue; or you may create a Tracker Issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document: http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html Status: Accepted Change Description: The requirement has been relaxed. Rationale: For all the reasons cited, the requirement has been relaxed to indicate that UAs may allow users to do something with cite, but are under no requirement to do anything. This change has been applied to both master and CR.