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    <bug>
          <bug_id>17841</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2012-07-18 07:00:53 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>Clarify CSS Outline advice in 8.4.4 Element-level focus APIs</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2012-12-10 05:01:41 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>WHATWG</product>
          <component>HTML</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>Other</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>other</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>FIXED</resolution>
          
          
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          <keywords></keywords>
          <priority>P3</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>Unsorted</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter>contributor</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</assigned_to>
          <cc>hans.hillen</cc>
    
    <cc>ian</cc>
    
    <cc>lwatson</cc>
    
    <cc>mcturvey</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
          
          <qa_contact>contributor</qa_contact>

      

      

      

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    <commentid>70152</commentid>
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    <who name="">contributor</who>
    <bug_when>2012-07-18 07:00:53 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>This was was cloned from bug 16826 as part of operation convergence.
Originally filed: 2012-04-23 12:42:00 +0000
Original reporter: Matthew Turvey &lt;mcturvey@gmail.com&gt;

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 #0   Matthew Turvey                                  2012-04-23 12:42:58 +0000 
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http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/editing.html#element-level-focus-apis

The current text advises:

&quot;Do not use this method to hide the focus ring if you find the focus ring unsightly. Instead, use a CSS rule to override the &apos;outline&apos; property. (Be aware, however, that this makes the page significantly less usable for some people, especially those with reduced vision who use focus outlines to help them navigate the page.)&quot;

The advice could be improved by emphasising that removing the focus outline affects all keyboard-navigation users, and the negative effects can be mitigated by using another CSS technique to display where the focus is, something like:

&quot;(Be aware, however, that, removing the focus outline makes the page significantly less usable to people who use a keyboard to navigate the page. If you do remove the focus outline, provide an alternative method of indicating focus with CSS :focus, such as adding an underline on text links or a border on linked images.)&quot;
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    <commentid>74620</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="Ian &apos;Hixie&apos; Hickson">ian</who>
    <bug_when>2012-09-27 04:01:44 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Not sure about that exact wording, but yeah, I could make that more elaborate.</thetext>
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    <commentid>79794</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="">contributor</who>
    <bug_when>2012-12-10 05:01:41 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Checked in as WHATWG revision r7575.
Check-in comment: Improve accessibility chops of this non-normative suggestion.
http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=7574&amp;to=7575</thetext>
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