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    <bug>
          <bug_id>17438</bug_id>
          
          <creation_ts>2012-06-07 14:48:53 +0000</creation_ts>
          <short_desc>the term &quot;hand authored&quot; is undefined and ambiguous</short_desc>
          <delta_ts>2012-09-28 14:22:16 +0000</delta_ts>
          <reporter_accessible>1</reporter_accessible>
          <cclist_accessible>1</cclist_accessible>
          <classification_id>1</classification_id>
          <classification>Unclassified</classification>
          <product>HTML WG</product>
          <component>HTML5 spec</component>
          <version>unspecified</version>
          <rep_platform>PC</rep_platform>
          <op_sys>All</op_sys>
          <bug_status>RESOLVED</bug_status>
          <resolution>WORKSFORME</resolution>
          
          
          <bug_file_loc></bug_file_loc>
          <status_whiteboard></status_whiteboard>
          <keywords>a11y_text-alt</keywords>
          <priority>P2</priority>
          <bug_severity>normal</bug_severity>
          <target_milestone>---</target_milestone>
          
          
          <everconfirmed>1</everconfirmed>
          <reporter name="Michael[tm] Smith">mike</reporter>
          <assigned_to name="This bug has no owner yet - up for the taking">dave.null</assigned_to>
          <cc>faulkner.steve</cc>
    
    <cc>julian.reschke</cc>
    
    <cc>mike</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-a11y</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-admin</cc>
    
    <cc>public-html-wg-issue-tracking</cc>
    
    <cc>robin</cc>
    
    <cc>silviapfeiffer1</cc>
          
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    <commentid>68808</commentid>
    <comment_count>0</comment_count>
    <who name="Michael[tm] Smith">mike</who>
    <bug_when>2012-06-07 14:48:53 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>The specification introduces the authoring-conformance constraint that a meta generator element must not be used on &quot;hand-authored&quot; pages. However, it does not define what a &quot;hand-authored&quot; page is, and the definition of that term is not obvious.</thetext>
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    <commentid>70223</commentid>
    <comment_count>1</comment_count>
    <who name="">contributor</who>
    <bug_when>2012-07-18 07:10:31 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>This bug was cloned to create bug 17876 as part of operation convergence.</thetext>
  </long_desc><long_desc isprivate="0" >
    <commentid>74032</commentid>
    <comment_count>2</comment_count>
    <who name="Robin Berjon">robin</who>
    <bug_when>2012-09-18 12:27:31 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>I can&apos;t find this in the spec — is it still open?</thetext>
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    <commentid>74034</commentid>
    <comment_count>3</comment_count>
    <who name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</who>
    <bug_when>2012-09-18 12:45:09 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #2)
&gt; I can&apos;t find this in the spec — is it still open?

think it was dealt with here https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/151feec6e34378f13edd279a0c9f7392016dfd24</thetext>
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    <commentid>74036</commentid>
    <comment_count>4</comment_count>
    <who name="Robin Berjon">robin</who>
    <bug_when>2012-09-18 12:58:53 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>I thought that was the case, thanks Steve!

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Status: Accepted
Rationale: The spec has already changed to address this concern as part of a larger one.</thetext>
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    <commentid>74766</commentid>
    <comment_count>5</comment_count>
    <who name="Silvia Pfeiffer">silviapfeiffer1</who>
    <bug_when>2012-09-28 09:37:01 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>The WHATWG spec made some clarifications on the &quot;hand-authored&quot; text. Do we want to adopt that?

https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/44081c783e869419053d6618b8154ad16b483abf</thetext>
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    <commentid>74768</commentid>
    <comment_count>6</comment_count>
    <who name="steve faulkner">faulkner.steve</who>
    <bug_when>2012-09-28 09:50:50 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>(In reply to comment #5)
&gt; The WHATWG spec made some clarifications on the &quot;hand-authored&quot; text. Do we
&gt; want to adopt that?
&gt; 
&gt; https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/44081c783e869419053d6618b8154ad16b483abf

the new changes do not make it any clearer as many HTML editing applications have both WYSIWYG and code editing features ( for example: dreamweaver or the default wordpress editor). So there is no way to determine if some or all of the HTML has been &apos;hand authored&apos;.</thetext>
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    <commentid>74805</commentid>
    <comment_count>7</comment_count>
    <who name="Silvia Pfeiffer">silviapfeiffer1</who>
    <bug_when>2012-09-28 14:22:16 +0000</bug_when>
    <thetext>Note: I&apos;m not asking for it to replace the issue-206 commit - just to add to it.

Could also be further clarified.</thetext>
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