16677 2012-04-10 04:22:33 +0000 Consider requiring seconds for Change Proposals 2012-04-10 20:36:31 +0000 1 1 1 Unclassified HTML WG working group Decision Policy unspecified PC All NEW P2 normal --- 1 mjs dave.null eoconnor mike mjs Paul.Cotton rubys public-html-bugzilla oldest_to_newest 66548 0 mjs 2012-04-10 04:22:33 +0000 Consider requiring one or more independent seconds for Change Proposals. Our Process allows a single person who feels strongly to override a large majority who are weakly opposed; only the person who feels strongly will feel motivated to write a Change Proposal and thus will win by default. The W3C Process defines consensus as: "Consensus: A substantial number of individuals in the set support the decision and nobody in the set registers a Formal Objection. Individuals in the set may abstain. Abstention is either an explicit expression of no opinion or silence by an individual in the set. Unanimity is the particular case of consensus where all individuals in the set support the decision (i.e., no individual in the set abstains)." We are effectively not enforcing the first part, "a substantial number of individuals in the set support the decision". If only one or two people support a change, that is not "a substantial number" relative to the size of the full WG. 66549 1 mjs 2012-04-10 04:22:56 +0000 Note: there is not consensus among the Chairs that this would be a good change. 66583 2 eoconnor 2012-04-10 20:07:19 +0000 FWIW, I think this is a great idea. 66587 3 rubys 2012-04-10 20:23:27 +0000 (In reply to comment #1) > Note: there is not consensus among the Chairs that this would be a good change. If there is a feature freeze in effect, that changes the picture considerably, and I could support this change under those circumstances. 66590 4 rubys 2012-04-10 20:36:31 +0000 (In reply to comment #3) > > If there is a feature freeze in effect, that changes the picture considerably, > and I could support this change under those circumstances. I take that back, a feature freeze isn't sufficient. I would support this if it applies to everybody. For example if https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16675 were to be implemented, I could support this change.